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Tranquility Bay.. recommended read.

Unread postby Endadelta » Fri Jul 04, 2003 4:09 pm

Article here.

Comments have stated this to be a tad 'emotional' over the issue, but I'm curious on other thoughts? <p>

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Unread postby Archmage144 » Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:11 pm

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Very little I have read has ever distressed (or frightened) me nearly so much. This is the kind of world you find depicted in Distopian literature--something I never would have imagined could actually be allowed to exist in our world as we know it. <p>
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Unread postby Kadrin77 » Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:29 pm

...what the fuck?! O__o

Any parents who subject their children to that kind of physical and emotional punishment just to turn them into silent, polite robots should die. Slowly.

And I thought children had rights too...I mean, they can't just be handcuffed,taken to Hell on Earth without a trial and get beaten if the guards feel like it. Or am I wrong?

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Unread postby Jak Snide » Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:37 pm

Read it through. As have a few friends in IRC. They're currently being busy outraged, while I just feel quite sick.

Edit: Oh, and there's a "air your views on what's wrong with Britian" at the top of the thread. I'm amused.

Edit MKII: And now there's one on what's right with it. Weird.

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Unread postby Kadrin77 » Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:45 pm

Hm... *reads it again*

I see. I guess my thoughts are similar to AM's.



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Re: Tranquility Bay.. recommended read.

Unread postby Jak Snide » Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:48 pm

Apparently, the US doesn't have as many human right laws for children as Europe does. If a European parent was to send off their kid to that place, they'd need governmental consent.

And the fact that a place like that is allowed to exist makes me sick.


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Unread postby BrainWalker » Fri Jul 04, 2003 7:02 pm

... I can't even begin to explain the wrongness. I'm honestly at a loss for words. <p><div style="text-align:center">Image</div></p>

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Unread postby Archmage144 » Fri Jul 04, 2003 7:38 pm

Jak: I was under the impression these sorts of things were illegal under US laws. Then again, there must be a reason the compound exists off US soil. <p>
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Unread postby KraKeN » Fri Jul 04, 2003 8:03 pm

It makes me want to go there and kill people....

Edit : Sorry I am just to pissed at the moment to think clearly. To imagine that something like that could go on....and well there be so many advocates for it. From the sounds of it, the parents should be sent there and not the kids. <p>
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Unread postby Jak Snide » Fri Jul 04, 2003 8:11 pm

They mention why it's located in Jamaica for that reason. However, I was referring to how parents have the supreme authority over their children. As if they were no more than material possessions.

And I'm with Krak here.


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Unread postby Uncle Pervy » Fri Jul 04, 2003 8:27 pm

I read this monday, and my soul still hurts.

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Unread postby Archmage144 » Fri Jul 04, 2003 9:50 pm

What's that stand for, I wonder? <p>
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Unread postby AnronTagutsi1987 » Fri Jul 04, 2003 10:48 pm

This has managed to sicken me to no end. I think I would have to kill anyone who would send their child to such a freakin evil place. I vote bomb them all to hell with cuddly pink fuzzy things. <p>Image

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Unread postby FlamingDeth » Sat Jul 05, 2003 3:12 am

...you'll note that the parents are practically conditioned to think it's a perfectly nice place, where no harm whatsoever comes to their offspring. Don't blame them.

Also, the laws of the US would prevent parents from knowingly doing this to their kids., Really, the only ones truly at fault, in my eyes at least, are the people who are weak enough in morals to make their living there. <p>
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Unread postby Uncle Pervy » Sat Jul 05, 2003 5:09 am

I find it amusing that the psychologist seems to subscribe cheifly to behavioralism. Which was more or less proved away in the late 50's. =D


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Unread postby Zemyla » Sat Jul 05, 2003 3:57 pm

The regimen there looks like the kind of brainwashing that the military of both the US and its enemies have done in the Cold War. I thought that it was forbidden by the Geneva Convention, though.

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Unread postby Vampire Jester Jinx » Sun Jul 06, 2003 4:00 am

holy bloody fuck this disturbs me on so many levels. o.O

www.difficultteens-tranquilitybay.com/

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Unread postby Uncle Pervy » Sun Jul 06, 2003 4:11 am

Gods...

The layout alone is painful enough.


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Unread postby Angel of Fire » Sun Jul 06, 2003 9:32 am

Behaivior modification? What are they doing, turning the kids into computers or something?
I say that there's a reason it's remote...


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Unread postby NebulaQueen » Sun Jul 06, 2003 12:08 pm

Even though the Bay is mostly targeted towards teenagers, I can't help but be reminded of this Exploitation Now strip.... <p>

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Unread postby Zemyla » Sun Jul 06, 2003 2:51 pm

They have a link to a questionnaire that gives 30 questions.

Somehow, this disturbs me the most:

Quote:
Up to 8 [yes responses]: Moderate risk. Tighten up family rules/understandings, and be consistent with your monitoring and follow through.


So even if there are no problems, parents need to
"tighten up" rules. This frightens me to no end. <p>-----
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Unread postby Dalin Rifthome » Sun Jul 06, 2003 3:10 pm

Jesus fucking christ. Im sorry, I really dont know what to say, im outraged. I'll post later when I dont want to bash things. <p>------------------
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Unread postby Kotoki » Sun Jul 06, 2003 7:05 pm

Wow.

That's... incredibly frightning. I agree. 1984 much?


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Unread postby Adrin » Sun Jul 06, 2003 10:23 pm

read this before.

Back in my day, we called this a "gulag."


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Re: ...

Unread postby Ganonfro » Sun Jul 06, 2003 11:21 pm

No, there are more random killings in gulag's. It's a prison for ignorant parents who don't know how to deal with thier kids.


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Unread postby EKDS5k » Mon Jul 07, 2003 12:42 am

The great thing about that questionnaire is that anyone with a normal teen is going to answer yes to at least 15 of the questions. <p>
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Unread postby Lord McBastard » Mon Jul 07, 2003 3:22 am

I like these ones best;

2. Has your teen ever been suspended, expelled, truant, or had a drop in school grades?

6. Do you have difficulty getting your teen to do simple household chores or homework?

10 .Does your teen seem depressed/withdrawn?

11. Has your teen's appearance and/or personal hygiene changed?

21. Does your teen seem to lack self-esteem and self-worth?

24. Does your teen engage in activities you don't approve of?

26. Are you concerned about your child's well being and their future?

That's what we call growing up here in Canada. Were these people born old? And question 26 is the parents decision! If I was getting my PhD in Nueral Surgery with straight A's and a hundred thousand dollar government grant my mother would worry about my well being and future. It's what parents do.

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Unread postby Angel of Fire » Mon Jul 07, 2003 3:30 pm

Most of those are completely normal. I don't claim to be a teen yet, but I already got a 9. Drop in school grades? That's actually a reason to worry? These people really need to get a brain. The "questionarre" is just plain rediculous. <p>_________
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Unread postby LadyDragonClawsEDW » Thu Jul 10, 2003 8:33 pm

Is it just me, or do the parents in the picture on the questionaire page look like...trailor trash? <p>
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Unread postby Animala » Thu Jul 10, 2003 10:28 pm

Trailor trash who can afford $80 a day to treat their children? <p>

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Unread postby pd Rydia » Thu Jul 10, 2003 11:11 pm

This is the saddest thing I've read in ages. <p>
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Unread postby Wolfbelly » Fri Jul 11, 2003 12:57 pm

Anybody watch the video? Interesting. <p>
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