Just something that worries me

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Just something that worries me

Unread postby KingOfDoma » Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:54 pm

Why is it like pulling teeth to get a CI chat RP going these days? <p>--------------------
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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby Besyanteo » Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:12 am

Because everyone you like RPing with has become disinterested, or has other things going on. People are thinking less about RP and more about how AIM makes a decent message machine while they do other things, so they can keep tabs on their friends.

... which begs the question why 14 of these people will accept an obvious RP invite and then only 3 of them don't lurk immediately after, I suppose. o.o As for me... I generally get interested, and them my parents' "Jason's gonna have fun" sense goes off and they have three things I need to get done first. That's life. :-/


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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby Molokidan » Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:35 am

This worries me too! First Board RPs go out of style, now Chat RPs are losing their luster!!! What is becoming of the world? <p>---------------

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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby Vampire Jester Jinx » Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:38 am

Jason sums it up beautifully. >.> Also the Lex gets interested in something else and forgets, and ends up lurking. Also being gone for ......a few weeks gets you out of the loop. Plots go stale. <p><div style="text-align:center">

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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby Uncle Pervy » Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:00 am

People have lives to live and other things to do. You can't just expect a CI whenever. You gotta time it right, so it works with other people's schedules and rhythms. <p>---------------------------

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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby Capntastic » Sun Jan 16, 2005 4:46 am

As Zero says, you can't just invite people to a room and expect a CI to happen. You've gotta have an idea of what you want out of the CI. IM people before-hand. Suggest things.






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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby Choark » Sun Jan 16, 2005 6:10 am

Because I'd rather punch my own teeth out then do another CI RP? I sort of Over dosed on them a few years back, doing one almost everyday and there's only so much standing around and talking you can do before you run out of ways to make standing around and talking fun for yourself. True when you're doing quests your basically walking and talking but hopefully things come up to actually talk about as well. Plus it started to get really silly the amount of people with troubled pasts wanted to tell complete strangers about there troubled pasts. Or even - when certain characters did have things to discuss, they could do the CI thing, but that leaves everyone else out *shrugs*

Besides!

I can't anymore. You all RP at awful times so there's no way I can partisipate in these things. I can't get into any RP's because they run on through the night, and everytime I tried to join in a CI RP as of late it takes so long for everyone to decide where, when and what they're RPing I get to do it for 15 minutues then have to log off.

So - I've stopped. You may or may not have noticed but I just can't RP in AIM anymore.

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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby Endesu » Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:21 pm

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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby Spleen » Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:52 pm

Cho and Bes are volcanoes of wisdom. Cho's remark about times outline exactly why Gaera RPs are hard for me to do. Those of you who were in Storm's Surge remember how I had to start typing very quietly (and thus very little) around 10:45 and had to be off by 11:15 or there'd be hell to pay.

I suppose the reason why I can't get a CI going is because everyone hates me and my damned setting, and my schedule and the schedules of key people I need are too unpredictable to get any plans going in advance. <p>__-__-__-__-__-__

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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby PriamNevhausten » Sun Jan 16, 2005 1:37 pm

Because you're not in chat when I am. Seriously, I am back in the groove of CIrps, but that's at like 1am EST. Or EDT, I forget. GMT -5, whatever that is classified as.

Had a couple pretty good ones this past couple weeks. Not going to do it every day, though. <p><span style="font-size:xx-small;">"It's in the air, in the headlines in the newspapers, in the blurry images on television. It is a secret you have yet to grasp, although the first syllable has been spoken in a dream you cannot quite recall." --Unknown Armies</span></p>

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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby WillBaseton » Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:08 pm

I think the big issue here is, as Cho said, stagnation. Basically, chat CIs pretty much DO feel all the same. Even if they do manage to get started relatively quickly and with more than 2 or 3 people involved, it very rarely evolves past a few people standing around and talking to each other about things that aren't necessarily that intriguing. Of course, nobody's REQUIRED to semi-GM every CI out there. That's absurd to even ask for. But it seems to me that having more guided CIs happen might revitalize the CI process a bit. It would also help get characters who might not know each other acquainted, as the possibility of random strangers walking up to each other and saying "Hi! I've got a troubled past! Want to talk about it?" is so unlikely it's sad. We need to find new ways to get characters meeting each other than just sitting in bars, and we need to find new ways to get characters to interact besides just walking in the park. I think that if people were motivated to find these new ways, RPing would revitalize itself very quickly. I just think that in general, we're all pretty used to the stagnation, and we don't really feel motivated to change it.

Of course, I haven't CIed in almost seven months, so I don't know if I can really talk. <p>
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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby Uncle Pervy » Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:34 pm

Or it could be that people have shit to do.

Because people often have things to do. Work, College Work, ect. I've seen some lovely CIs take place when people aren't busy.

BUT!

I've done the occasional guided CI, and have a few more in mind. <p>---------------------------

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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby WillBaseton » Sun Jan 16, 2005 7:56 pm

Pervy, you're right. I know I personally stopped RPing so I could do more stuff with my social life, as well as some of the issues mentioned above. Your point is perfectly valid. But my point is, the people who do frequently RP sometimes just seem content to not change anything or infuse intrigue/interest into otherwise bland CIs. And that makes it harder for people who are dissatisfied with RPing to get back into it. <p>
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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby FF Fanatic 80 » Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:31 pm

All that pretty much sums me up too. I don't mind the occasional RP, but there's other stuff I'd like to do too, to be honest =/

That, and if I see more than 5 people RPing, I don't like forcing myself into it. *shrug* Feel like an ass if I start RPing a character, and cause a few people to lurk due to non-interaction.


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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby The Great Nevareh » Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:52 am

It's like pulling teeth with ME because I'm a temperamental old cuss.

That, and my problem is that the CIs don't seem to GO anywhere. Plus the vast majority of the interactions that occur are built upon a canon so multi-faceted and deep that I don't really understand what's going on or why. It just... doesn't make much sense.

A lot of effort goes into not doing anything unrealistic, and being realistic is very draining in a fantasy setting. Fantasy and Reality aren't exactly compatible concepts.

Edit: Well, by definition, fantasy is not reality, and reality is not fantasy. Attempting realistic Fantasy is proper and fair, but it at times isn't quite as spur-of-the-moment fun as unrealistic fantasy. So much planning, so little progress.

Right now, there is tons and tons of canon that very few people ever use just to anticipate increased use with time, written in a format that's supposed to accomodate tens of thousands of users as opposed to something like a hundred, if even that. <p>[---------------------------]
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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby Idran1701 » Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:56 am

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Fantasy and Reality aren't exactly compatible concepts.


I'm not exactly sure what you mean here. Could you clarify a bit before I say something stupid in response?

Also, on topic: For me, it's mainly a time issue, although I do try to when possible and invited. (I also have a bad habit of lurking rather than participating in a lot of chats, which I freely admit.) <p>

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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby Archmage144 » Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:30 pm

Sticking to some sort of established canon is good, if you ask me.

Obsessing over that canonical worldview to the point where everything stagnates like the Stillwater River is not.

I could go into a long tirade here, but I don't really have the time for it. In theory I could probably write some long and likely very boring essay-ish post, but I'll save it for later, when I'm in the mood. I haven't forgotten RPGWW's fantastic RP and RPing standards, even if my actual RP activity has fallen off here of late.

I'm still thinking about this issue, whether I can impact it or not, among a great number of other things. Let's see where my train of thought winds up pulling into the station... <p>
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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby Capntastic » Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:33 pm

All Zero's gotta say about the whole fantasy/reality thing is this: While fantasy is not reality, both require rules to be worked with in a Roleplaying environment.


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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby FlamingDeth » Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:15 pm

Like they say, you can ask someone to believe the impossible, just don't ask them to believe the implausible. <p>
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Re: Just something that worries me

Unread postby Archmage144 » Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:41 pm

The biggest issue is where the lines for implausible are being drawn. <p>
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