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Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby camanalis » Wed Dec 01, 2004 2:52 pm

(OOC: This is a fantasy rp set in midevil times. Other than that, almost everything goes)

In the early hours of daylight a solitary figure is walking through the forest. The forest is full of trees 20 times the height of a grown man. There are also some strange reddish plants gathered around the base of the trees. The figure is a young man about 17 years old. His name is Camanalis. He is about 6' tall and looks to be about 210 lbs. He has shoulder length dark red hair and wears a long dark red cloak that covers up thin armor that only seems to cover his upper torso. His eyes are a brownish red. On his back there seems to be a long katana like sword with a blade acting like a hand guard in front of the hilt. After walking awhile he starts gathering wood for a fire. When he is finished he sits down by the pile of wood. He extends his hand to it and it bursts into flame. While it burns he seems to absorb the heat from the flame. <p>Caman, Camanis, Camanalis. All the same to me.</p>Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=camanalis>camanalis</A] at: 12/10/04 15:03

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby pd Rydia » Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:20 pm

Hi Cam! I believe I've seen you around before!

This looks like it may work. It could use a little more detail about the forest (sounds, smells, animals, etc., just as some suggestions, not as a guideline), and maybe something that might bring in other RPers (anything special there to attract the attention of a passerby?) Maybe some more information about what he's doing and looks like, described like you would see in a book ("show, don't tell," as they say...write it so that it's interesting to read).

Also, will this be in the main RP world we have here (Gaera), or a miscellaneous world of your making?

Also, are you looking for any particular type of RPers? Or is anyone pretty much free to join? <p>
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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby Uncle Pervy » Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:05 pm

Miscellanous world by the look of it. <p>-------------------------------------
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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby camanalis » Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:53 am

(OOC: yes, you have seen me before but at the time I was just starting to RP. I am still not very good but im going to try anyways.
This is a misc. world of my own. Anyone with a good imagination that is not set on killing can join.)

As Camanalis absorbed the energy from the fire, he looked around his surroundings. He saw something moving in the trees above him. A bird suddenly flew out of a tree into the next. It was very small but Camanalis could see that it was a dark blue. As he continued looking around he saw a few other woodland creatures inluding a snake which got a little to close to him. He slowly rose to his feet and stayed there until the snake past. Then he extinguished the fire with some dirt and started walking again.

(ooc: I am not done, I just have to go at the moment) <p>Caman, Camanis, Camanalis. All the same to me.</p>

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby pd Rydia » Thu Dec 02, 2004 1:43 pm

Um, Cam? This is the "OOC" forum. Not the place to put RPs or be "in character." No need for parenthesis, because everything is assumed to be out of character.

I was suggesting you adjust your original post, so that when you post it to the Other RPs forum, it'll have enough substance to attract RPers. <p>
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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby camanalis » Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:49 pm

How's This
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In the world today, magic has spread like wildfire. Each year it seems to get stronger a and stronger. But there are some who seem to be weakened by this sudden surge of power. And the name of one of them is Camanalis

In the early hours of daylight a solitary figure is walking through the forest. Dark blue birds are seen flying through the trees above. Squirrels and other woodland creatures are seen always busy. The forest is full of trees 20 times the height of a grown man. There are also some strange reddish plants gathered around the base of the trees. The figure is a young man about 17 years old. His name is Camanalis. He is about 6' tall and looks to be about 210 lbs. He has shoulder length dark red hair and wears a long dark red cloak that covers up thin armor that only seems to cover his upper torso. His eyes are a brownish red. On his back there seems to be a long katana like sword with a blade acting like a hand guard in front of the hilt. After walking awhile he starts gathering wood for a fire. When he is finished he sits down by the pile of wood. He extends his hand to it and it bursts into flame. While it burns he seems to absorb the heat from the flame. As Camanalis absorbed the energy from the fire, he looked around his surroundings. Right behind him he saw a huge snake approaching him. Faster than the eye, Camanalis flung his hand towards the snake releasing a fireball just large enough to scare it away. Then Caman sat down and started absorbing energy from the fire again.
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And rydia, when did you become the keeper of the corn?
<p>Caman, Camanis, Camanalis. All the same to me.</p>Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=camanalis>camanalis</A] at: 12/2/04 3:08 pm

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby camanalis » Thu Dec 02, 2004 3:29 pm

Oops. I was just using parentheses to seperate what I was saying from the storyline. And I will edit all this stuff before I post it in the other rp's forum. <p>Caman, Camanis, Camanalis. All the same to me.</p>

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby Molokidan » Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:44 pm

This looks a lot better than your initial post! The prologue adds some substance.

Just some suggestions, in the advertisement post (this post) you should say a few lines of what kind of RP this will be, what people should do to make a character, any rules, etc. That way people will know what they are getting into, and it might even attract them to join if they like said rules.

I'm sure I as well as other people would have no problem joining this as long as it gets a little more concrete. <p>---------------

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby camanalis » Mon Dec 06, 2004 3:07 pm

I've added on even more and put it all together in this post. I like these suggestions I am getting. If there are anymore let me hear 'em!
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(Any one who is any good at roleplaying can join this roleplay. I will prefer people who like magic and traditional weapons.It is set in a midevil setting. This is not a Killing roleplay!! It might include fighting but that will not be the base of this roleplay. You can join as one of the weakened or as one of the strong. The weakened are pretty much people whose bodies suppress their magic for a while before it is unleashed.)

In the world today, magic has spread like wildfire. Each year it seems to get stronger a and stronger. But there are some who seem to be weakened by this sudden surge of power. And the name of one of them is Camanalis.

In the early hours of daylight a solitary figure is walking through the forest. Dark blue birds are seen flying through the trees above. Squirrels and other woodland creatures are seen always busy. The forest is full of trees 20 times the height of a grown man. There are also some strange reddish plants gathered around the base of the trees. The figure is a young Cat-human about 17 years old. His name is Camanalis. He is about 6' tall and looks to be about 210 lbs. He has shoulder length dark red hair and wears a long dark red cloak that covers up thin armor that only seems to cover his upper torso. His eyes are a brownish red. On his back there seems to be a long katana like sword with a blade acting like a hand guard in front of the hilt. After walking awhile he starts gathering wood for a fire. When he is finished he sits down by the pile of wood. He extends his hand to it and it bursts into flame. While it burns he seems to absorb the heat from the flame. As Camanalis absorbed the energy from the fire, he looked around his surroundings. Right behind him he saw a huge snake approaching him. Faster than the eye, Camanalis flung his hand towards the snake releasing a fireball just large enough to scare it away. Then Caman sat down and started absorbing energy from the fire again.
<p>Caman, Camanis, Camanalis. All the same to me.</p>Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=camanalis>camanalis</A] at: 12/8/04 14:28

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby ziratha » Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:34 pm

This seems interesting, but what is the point of the story, just adventure, or is there a reason to do so?

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby Celeste of Elvenhame » Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:53 pm

I'm going to offer Celeste up for this in her younger years before she became too powerful to really be a good character for playing....

what sort of character sheet style woukd be most helpful to you so that I might type on up for you. (And get around to adding her to the character closet, woo!) <p>---------------Celeste of Elvenhame ---------------

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby camanalis » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:43 pm

The goal of the weakened is pretty much is to find why they are getting drained of energy. They do not know that it is their bodies suppressing their magic. Otherwise you can make up your own goals to go along with the storyline. Also, there are some of the strengthened that pick on or try to exterminate the weakened.

I just need to know what your character looks like and what kind of personality he/she has. Also put some background about your character and what special abilities he/she has.

This is camanalis
Name: Camanalis
Race: Cat-Human
Age: 17
Sex: Male
Physical Description: 6' tall, 210 lbs, Pretty muscular. Hair: Dark red. Covers his whole body. ,Dark red cat eyes. , Always wears a dark red or dark green cloak with the hood up to try and hide his race. Under his cloak is thin but strong armor. Carries a long katana like sword on his back. The sword has a blade attached to the hilt like a hand guard. You can sometimes see the tip of his tail from the bottom of his cloak.

Background: Since Caman was a child he always lived in fear of discrimination from Humans. He has been trained as a spellsword from when he was 8 years old. Usually quiet and reserved he only really talks when he is only among friends.

Special abilities: Uses his sword like it is nothing. Caman can light the blades on fire without hurting himself but as he is weakened, it can drain all his energy and kill him if he is not careful. Casts a variety of energy based (fire, electricity, etc) and object creation spells (he can make objects appear out of thin air.) <p>Cam, Caman, Camanis, Camanalis. All the same to me.</p>Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=camanalis>camanalis</A] at: 12/9/04 14:25

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby camanalis » Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:46 pm

as you can see, I have made Caman half cat <p>Cam, Caman, Camanis, Camanalis. All the same to me.</p>

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby Molokidan » Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:09 pm

I'll give this a shot, because everyone deserves a chance, and Camanalis, you have shown promise so far as a capable RPer!

Just two critiques --

-Use the edit button when you have an extra comment to make on your post. (Like the one above this.) It's good etiquette, and cleans up threads much better.

-Take a few extra seconds after you type your post, for grammatical spelling errors. You aren't bad like most of the newbies we always get, you just forget a period or comma here and there. If you really find yourself confused, you can go to the boot camp, but I think if you just take a few seconds to double-check your posts you'll be fine. As stated at the top of the forum main page, RPGWW prides itself on grammatical goodness, so please try to keep that in check. Like I said before, nothing major.


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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby camanalis » Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:00 pm

OK, nobody is posting anything (like their character sheets) other than Molokidan. Does this mean you are no longer interested? <p>Cam, Caman, Camanis, Camanalis. All the same to me.</p>

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby Molokidan » Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:42 pm

Apparently it didn't catch many people's eyes, Camanalis. Don't worry, this happens to everyone. Try to just get involved with the board more, look at other RPs for ideas, and then try again later. Board RPs have also become quite scarce lately, most RPs are now carried out in chat using AIM. I would suggest trying to get involved with one of those (or coming into the normal RPGWW Chat regularly) and then creating your own, since they are usually over much quicker than board RPs. <p>---------------

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby Celeste of Elvenhame » Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:43 am

I could still join, RL just kept me busy. Two players and one gm might not be enough though :( <p>---------------Celeste of Elvenhame ---------------

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby camanalis » Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:39 am

I think if we had one more player it could work. <p>Cam, Caman, Camanis, Camanalis. All the same to me.</p>

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby FlamingDeth » Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:23 pm

I figure that I'll throw this guy in. You might recognise him. :D

Name: Pierre
Race: Floral Dragon
Age: Unknown!
Gender: Male
Description: Probably about 20 feet long, from head to tail, though a lot of that is neck and tail. 25 foot wingspan. Has fairly light multi-coloured scales that resemble flower petals. Wings, while allowing flight, also serve as giant leaves, allowing Pierre to photosynthesize as a means of gathering energy. Prefers to sleep on soil, as that lets him gather liquid and nutrients.

Background: One of the few survivors of an ancient and dying race. Why are the Floral Dragons dying? Something to do with all that magical mumbo jumbo that's been happening is all he knows. So, obviously he has to figure out waht's going on before he becomes too weak to actually do anything!

Abilities: While he is getting weaker as time goes on, he's still big and physically strong. In addition to the previously mentioned photosynthesis, he also has a breath weapon! This is pretty much just spewing pollen from his mouth. It's main use is that of a distraction, making the target itchy and sneezy and blind and whatnot. He can choose from various types of pollen, in case he finds an allergy-ridden opponent. He has teeth and claws that are fairly narrow and pointy, resembling thorns. He can fly, yadda yadda yadda. He can take on the humanoid form of a dryad, though it takes a lot of effort at this point. Also, in addition to the common language, he speaks the Language of the Ancients, and also French. <p>
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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby Molokidan » Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:27 pm

I am pleasantly surprised to see Fdeth join the fray!

Good deal. Well, Camanalis, we're all yours. Be sure to realize your role as the GM, and check the board frequently to update it. =] <p>---------------

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby camanalis » Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:14 pm

Ah yes. The floral dragon. Back when I REALLY sucked at RPing. So now I post this in the other RP section. It is called Age of Fire <p>Cam, Caman, Camanis, Camanalis. All the same to me.</p>Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=camanalis>camanalis</A] at: 12/15/04 13:24

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby Mechanisto » Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:05 pm

Gah... looks like I'm a little late on this one. But here goes!

I'm not sure if this character is going to be acceptable, given as this RP seems centered around an element my character is largely immune to. But if we can get ti to work, it should be interesting. Please let me know if my character is OK, or if there's anything that needs changing.

Another "Gah"... just re-read it, and realized it's LOOOOONG... sorry!

Name: Emery Godo
Player: MechanistoX
Race: Salamander
Age: 341
Sex: Male
Body: Tall, lean and muscular
Quote: "Where there's smoke... there's fire!"


Physical description

Tall, lean and muscular, Emery looks every bit the soldier. His skin is darkly tanned and covered with a constant sweaty sheen. His hair is a dark red, almost rust colored, and worn long and unkempt. His eyes are sharp and bright-red and his face bears a constant smile, grin, or smirk. Indeed, even in the direst or most sorrowful of situations the smile never really fades completely. He doesn't have any need for social interaction, but will gladly join in if the situation arises. His garb and armor is clearly some kind of soldier's outfit, but it bears no identification or coat-of-arms and doesn't resemble the uniform of any known military. Also un-soldierly is his total lack of scars.

People are rarely what they seem; Emery is of course no different. He is actually a salamander, a slick-skinned, six-legged reptile about the size of a pony, covered in patterns of bright red and inky black. He has a number of supernatural powers, the most prominent of which is his ability to shape shift into an armor-clad human. He spends most of his time in human form to avoid 'complications' with the natives... but since he cannot change back without wearing the armor, he's never seen without it. His human form shares some of the strength, mobility and athletic prowess of his mythical half, but prevents him from using all but the weakest of his magical powers.


Background

Emery's background is relatively dull and short (compared to some other mythical beasts, at least). As the middle child of a clutch of about thirty brothers and sisters, he soon suffered from wanderlust. As soon as his shape changing ability grew in, he left home for adventure and exploration and hasn't looked back since. He doesn't understand people much but is still fascinated with them. He is slowly learning to tolerate a few of their quirks, and appreciate the luxuries they have to offer. He doesn't like showing his true form around them if it can be avoided and tries to earn a good reputation whenever possible. He's relatively new to this whole "adventuring" business, but so far he likes what he's seen.

Unfortunately, his first first problem-solving strategy among humans was to breathe fire first, breathe fire again, breathe fire a few more times for good measure, and then maybe consider asking a question or two. After being driven out of a few towns despite his best intentions, he realized this just doesn't work outside of salamander society. Since then he's been very reserved and cautious about using his powers around humans and their belongings, instead relying on conventional armed combat when needed. The social aspect of human beings continues to both fascinate and elude him.

The recent weakening of magic has affected him very little. His Salamander form wields tremendous arcane power. However, it's sealed safely away when he's human, preventing it from being used or drained. Since he only spends a few hours a week as a reptile, he's relatively unaffected by "The Weakening". If he were to spend more time in his true form things might be very different indeed...


Equipment:

When humanoid, he's always seen wearing his armor; a full-body suit made of scale-sheathed leather, that looks like it was hewn straight from the hide of a dragon. This is essentially the truth since the armor is actually the skin of his lizard form. The scaled and plated parts are a dull red, with patches of black leather. Its surface constantly gleams with a well oiled sheen, and dust and dirt seem to slide right off it. Its protective value is impressive compared to other hide or scale armors, but doesn't compare to banded or full plate suits. The real benefit is that it's extremely well balanced; it's highly durable and easy to repair and clean, offers tremendous mobility, and doesn't overheat the wearer. It can be donned and removed in a rush, and can be worn comfortably over a solid day of marching.

Emery's favored weapon is the polearm, either a spear or halberd. He sometimes carries a pair of light harpoons, but only when he expects a fight. He doesn't get too attached to his weapon; anything will do in a pinch. Even though such weapons are usually only used by soldiers marching in rank and file, he's strong and agile enough to use it effectively alone.


Abilities:

Shape shifting - Emery has the ability to transmute himself into a completely human form. This is more than just a magic spell, and is an innate ability. He can transform at will, with his salamander skin taking the form of scaled armor that moves as easily as... well... his own skin. He cannot transform back into a salamander without this outfit. His supernatural powers are unavailable in this form, except for a very minor control over fire, and the notable resistance to flames bestowed by the armor itself. Like other salamanders, Emery can regenerate lost limbs as long as he stays in his true form.

Control Fire - This magical power allows one to manipulate fire, causing it to shape and move, grow or fade, and give off a desired amount of heat, light and smoke. The ability requires great concentration, and the changes disappear after the control is released. Simple effects are effortless, but his salamander form can expend magical energy to create some truly destructive and awe-inspiring results.

Cinder Breath - In reptile form, Emery can exhale a large cone of fire over significant distances. The flames are intense, but barely visible... the real damage is caused by the ash; the cone generates billowing clouds of greasy smoke and fills the air with glowing hot embers and a choking layer of soot. The attack can blind several opponents in a large area, and make the air almost completely unbreathable as the oxygen is burned away. Emery himself can breathe the stuff just fine, and his vision is hardly impaired at all. The heavy smoke settles after a minute or so, and a stiff wind can disperse it even faster. He can use this ability two or three times in a day; one good meal replenishes one use.

Elemental Immunity - In reptile form, Emery is completely immune to natural heat. In fact, he's very comfortable in it. He bathes in lava, sleeps in bonfires, inhales smoke, and gargles napalm. His diet consists of the recently burned ashes and cinders of plants and animals. Magical fires are even more delicious, and restore some magical energy... though he can only devour them safely if he's careful. Surprisingly, he isn't overly vulnerable to ice or water; He actually enjoys the occasional swim, and can easily melt through ice in a hurry. His true weakness is wind; it's one of the few things that can toss him off his feet and nullify his breath attack.

Code of Honor - With such a strong elemental alignment, Emery gets along well with other fiery creatures. Sort of an "All for one, and one for all" deal. He's obligated to offer assistance, protection and hospitality to fire-based creatures, and can expect at least some respect in return. Of course, this generosity doesn't extend to his enemies and rivals, or to people who oppose his personal code of ethics. He's tangled with his own kind in the past, and won’t be taken advantage of again if he can help it.
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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby camanalis » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:52 pm

You can certianly join.

Looks like your one power, "Control fire" is like Caman's ability to control energy so I wouldn't worry about it. And not everyone is weakened. Some are actually strengthened by the surge of magic. You can be one of them if you like. <p>Cam, Caman, Camanis, Camanalis. All the same to me.</p>

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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby ziratha » Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:11 pm

humm, Is this still open, I *may* have a character to add...


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Re: Fire (RP Idea)

Unread postby Molokidan » Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:28 pm

This is still open, unless it says "Closed", it's still open.

And make sure that when you do make your character, you edit the above post to add him in, so that you don't junk up the thread. Thanks! <p>---------------

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character

Unread postby ziratha » Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:08 pm

Sorry, it wouldn't let me log in to edit my post.!!!!????


So here's my character (If it's not too much trouble I'll name my character after me. It'll be easier for me to keep track of.) :
History:
Ziratha is, by all accounts, an outsider... he's always from another town or another place. Nobody knows who he really is. Who he really is really unimportant, not because he doesn't know or doesn't want to know, he just... doesn't care.
Personality:
Ziratha is a friendly person, with one major character flaw, he doesn't give a crap about just about anything.
He is rather weird, saying anything he thinks, without thinking about it first.
He is neither evil nor good(strictly), rather he does what he thinks will aid him. For example, he once tripped an ally when they were both being chased by a dark dragon, the allies death was for his benefit. He regrets this, but believes it was needed.
Ziratha, for no particular reason, is skilled at knitting
Apperance:
Ziratha wears a red hoody type coat, that's a little big for him. His hair is dirty blond and to his shoulders. His eyes are blue/green. He wears dusty leather pants and old black boots of unknown lizard skin.

Abilities:
Are to use the power of zodiac cards for various effects.
zodiac magic will either be made up by me or, if you prefer they can be made up by you.


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Re: character

Unread postby Molokidan » Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:42 pm

It looks like you're having trouble logging in.

Check the Discussion Forum for help on how to get that back to normal.

Otherwise, it would be best to wait for Camanalis to come back in January before you join, I think. <p>---------------

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Re: character

Unread postby camanalis » Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:09 pm

Hi, Im back. And Ziratha, you can join if you want. As long as it does not get too crazy, you can make up your own powers. <p>Cam, Caman, Camanis, Camanalis. All the same to me.</p>Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=camanalis>camanalis</A] at: 1/3/05 15:11


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