Old School RPGWW Discussion (possible RP Idea as well...)

[Ash Fanrico]

I was reading through the whole "Hit" pages that Molokidan posted in the Fanfiction section earlier yesterday... and found myself... wanting to go back to that time once more. The "Pre-Gaera" RPGWW world, the "First Age" or any of them other fancy titles you want to put on it.

Can some of you understand this? Back to the old school RPGWW world.

Again... I don't know... maybe one last rp with the original character templates. One last go with the very first characters we started out with before all the changes came. One last hurrah for old times sake. 6_6

*Thinks back to it all, for it seems almost like... yesterday* 9.9

Back when there was like... ONE kingdom... and it belonged to Charles... the King of Doma. And maybe one little foreign land called Riva... whatever the hell THAT was. >:P

Back to when there was Empress Rydia and her pet Lap-Dragon Fluffy... who was one of the most feared creatures ever to walk the RPGWW rping lands. Next to the DTLTTOBNL. :P

Dia was either trying to otherthrow Charles, take over the then known world, or drinking a crapload of FNWCs. :D

Back to when Ash was nothing more than a silly parody of rpg & fantasy heroes with a big ass Broom that was more deadlier than a Sword. Back when he talked in Cyan/Frog-ese proper english.

Back when there were all those different cell blocks within the Doman Dungeon (has no idea if they still exsist in today's continuity). Each block containing a hellish theme to torture prisoners. Alphabetized no less. ^^

When End was a revolutionary leader (and a moogle one at that biatch) trying to bring about the downfall of the then at-times cruel dictator King Charles of Doma, and his chancellor Smartz.

When Jak Snide was nothing more than a Mage for Hire with a disturbing love of blowing stuff up or setting things on fire. A very violent little mage.

Back when FlamingDeth was a super cool ninja with a mighty Fighting Ham as a weapon!!!!!!

I don't know... maybe I'm just reminiscing about old times like an equally old timer. e_e

But... if you ask me... it'd be fun to play around with those characters once more... one last time...

I just think it would be fun... doesn't have to be 100% serious... these original characters for the most part never were to begin with.

Anyone wanting to make one last story for these old "Pre-Gaera" character archetypes? One final run with these old school versions of our main characters?

If not... we can at least just talk about the funny stuff we used to do with our first characters... and how it's all changed over the last... almost... three years now? O_o

Anyone... ? <p>"Uh-Huh... hate to break this to you... but gratuitus panty shots aren't considered a weapon!" --Deadpool to Sailor Moon, "Deadpool vs. Sailor Moon"</p>Edited by: Ash Fanrico&nbsp; at: 11/24/04 4:02 am

[Ash Fanrico]

You did read the "Not 100% serious" bit didn't you Shin?

It was fun for it's goofiness... fun for it's lack of taking itself completely serious.

I never said it had to be a serious adventure, or a serious story. How can a story with a violent pyromaniac mage, a broom-wielding hero, a ham-weilding ninja, and whatnot be anywhere near completely and totally serious? You can spot the obvious jokes in the Hit, and whatnot.

Like I've said... they were mainly parodies of pop culture pertaining to rpgs, anime, fantasy stories, etc. Long held conventions and traditions, cliches, and whatnot.

Besides... I'm not saying WE HAVE TO MAKE AN RP OR I'LL BLOW UP A BARREL OF KITTENS... it's only a simple suggestion... proposing a possible idea. What gods and sacred laws haveth I offended by simply suggesting?

If the majority would like... we can just... OMG... discuss stuff about the "old days" of RPGWW. How our characters have changed over these years since the RPing began to be taken more seriously. The personality changes, the story changes, the design changes, the approach changes, etc. etc. Like I also... *gasp* suggested.

That Ok with you Shin? I'm serious... that ok with you? Need I run anything else past you for your consent? e_e

<p>"Uh-Huh... hate to break this to you... but gratuitus panty shots aren't considered a weapon!" --Deadpool to Sailor Moon, "Deadpool vs. Sailor Moon"</p>Edited by: Ash Fanrico&nbsp; at: 11/24/04 5:04 am

[Molokidan]

I think it's definitely been a solid three years. . .

With old Gaera, everything was just up in the air, unorganized, it was all chaos, with each post taking the story in a new crazy way.

On the other hand, having come back from over a year of absence, I just the opposite with the Gaera as it is now.

There is good parts to both 'Gaeras'.

I don't know if I'm interested in a Pre-Gaera RP as it was before, but if you're asking if I'm interested in a Pre-Gaera-style RP, as in, each player, with each post, adds to the plot. . .then I am definitely interested in that. Those kind of RPs are the funnest, in my opinion.

However, Ash, something that's always been on my mind, is uniting all the "classic" characters in another crusade. It doesn't have to be anything earth-shattering, but rounding up Ash Fanrico, Daniel Hyral, Jak, Rydia, Molokidan, End, Fdeth, etc. (however many people we can get) for another adventure would be super fun, whether we have to use the real gaera timeline or just do an AU RP, I'd be up for that too.

Either way, Ash, I'd like to RP with you again, that's the bottom line. =P <p>---------------

"Well slap a dead fish on me and call me Molokidan!"</p>

[Ash Fanrico]

That's good to hear Molokidan.

If an rp is made... it'd probably be an AU RP... where the events that changed much of the then RPing World into what is now Gaera... never happened. Maybe having only the events surrounding the Hit (in it and during it) as apart of the continuity.

As to what kind of style it'd be done in... I don't know.

Glad to know you'd be behind it Molo. <p>"Uh-Huh... hate to break this to you... but gratuitus panty shots aren't considered a weapon!" --Deadpool to Sailor Moon, "Deadpool vs. Sailor Moon"</p>

[Shinigori V2]

Ash.

Ash, Ash, Ash.

There's a reason none of this is RPed anymore.

It's all very, very stupid and makes little sense.

And I mean all of it.

This is why it's been replaced with more sensical and less stupid things as needed. <p>

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[Shinigori V2]

I read the not serious part.

That doesn't change that the ideas are dumb.

And yeah, perhaps you should run stuff by me in the future, if only to save face. ^^ <p>

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[Ash Fanrico]

But then why do you act like I don't realize this? Why do you act like I'm not aware of the goofiness and at times stupid things that happened during the old days of RPGWW?

I mean hell... I remember a battle that had Dark Fanrico getting killed by having an elephant being dropped on him (by Rube I think 9_9). I mean... that ain't serious... that borders more on what would happen in a Tom & Jerry or Warner Bros. cartoon.

I'm mean it's just that your post at first glance seems to act like I don't read what I just posted or realize what I myself am talking about.

I just think, and am up for a possible rp of, a zany, not so serious look-back/tribute to the original roots of the RPing community we now frequent. But I'm just simply suggesting the idea... I think it'd fun if it takes shape and actually takes off... but if it's not to be... I'll be happy to just simply discuss about those good old days, when seriousness what not the standard. And how it all began to eventually become more organized as time went on.

Ok dude? <p>"Uh-Huh... hate to break this to you... but gratuitus panty shots aren't considered a weapon!" --Deadpool to Sailor Moon, "Deadpool vs. Sailor Moon"</p>

[Shinigori V2]

No, see, the problem is that you're the only one who thinks that more than a third of the stuff wasn't stupid back then.

And that's because you're doing the same exact things now that you did then. <p>

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[Idran1701]

Well, not technically the _only_ one. But of course, I do have fairly low standards for this sort of thing. You also have to factor in the nostalgia factor, as neither of us were really involved in anything he was mentioning, Shini, or at the most we came in on the tail end. At least, I know I wasn't, and I know we joined RPGWW around the same time, which was about when The Future started, really one of the first steps towards more serious RPing. Things like the ADV! war still popped up, but it really started to get much less common after that point. Anyway, going back to the nostalgia factor, one always tends to look on their introduction to a genre more highly than one who was introduced later and is appraising events from before that person started. <p>

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"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what is right" - Salvor Hardin
</p>Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=idran1701>Idran1701</A] at: 11/24/04 6:58 am

[Choark]

To be a smartallic:

You should take something Shiny says with a pinch of salt anyway. Him and F-deth long ago took on Rubes mantle of being a smartass and rude to other people but still be 'loveable' - even if sometimes you just want to love them with ya fist to there face on the odd occasion.

Or they both decided long ago there was no point in trying to be polite or nice in what they say anymore... either way.






As for disgussions of old times go I'm afraid this is before my era so I can't comment. The only old thing I miss is when I could walk into a chatroom, the small group of us (and we were a lot smaller then) chat and spam and suddenly we were RPing without any plans or care. Very hectic of course but lots of fun.

These days though *I* can't do that, so I'm not complaining about the others, just me. Not saying others can't do it or actually do it... I've lost a lot of sudden spontinuaity... Of course that might be cause all of my main characters are now caught up in plot thingy's that I have no desire to touch at the moment so I've RP'ed myself into a corner.

Anywho - for as long as I've been here we've always had Make Sence Is Some Sort Of Way plots... that is no ones dropped a house on anyones head suddenly, but we did do some silly stuff. <p><div style="text-align:center"> </div>
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[Molokidan]

I don't want to make trouble, but in all fairness, Shini, there's nothing wrong with just staring a discussion about the old stuff, and that's all that Ash was doing, there's no harm in that.

I don't really care if it's "stupid" or not, I still have fond memories of it, so I'll take part in any discussions or whatnot about the Pre-Gaera stuff, for nostalgia's sake. That's all there is to it. <p>---------------

"Well slap a dead fish on me and call me Molokidan!"</p>

[FF Fanatic 80]

I can understand where Ash is coming from, having been here awhile. When I think back, I remember looking forward to hopping on and reading the Rpg World keenspace forum, just to see what silly stuff folks had posted.

But the things is, a lot of it is just nostalgia talking.

I also remember disagreements that popped up over certain topics, clashes that occured over the Rpg World comic itself, and the actions of some posters. I also remember the keenspace forums being a festering pile of crap when it came to stability. So the past was definitely not all sunshine and rainbows.

In some ways, I do miss the spontaneousness and sillyness we used to have toward roleplay. It was what got me started roleplaying here to begin with. But the thing is, Rpgww had to change as time went on.

As we got bigger, and more people started to hang out and RP with us, things had to change and evolve. Otherwise, I'm sure a lot of us would have left a long time ago. You can only RP random mayhem so much before it starts to get old. Which is why I think we started to slowly shift over to more serious RPing. It was something different and interesting to try, a new challenge, so to speak. It still amazes me to this day how much we've all put into this little imaginary world called Gaera.

And as much as I'm sure I'm asking for trouble bringing this up, I think the fiasco we had last year over "The War" was a good example of how change can sometimes be a painful process, as opposed to a subtle one over time. It showed that Rpgww was not the small community of random posters to a webcomic it once was. It had become a somewhat larger community of its own. And the more people you have in a community, the more opinion will start to differ. Which became loud and clear during that time.

Despite all the bad that came with it, I think the war situation was a good thing for this community. It showed how much people really cared about Gaera and the RP world here. While I don't think it was handled as best as it could have been, I know what eventually happened wasn't what was intended. I think some people saw that our RP world, Gaera, was starting to stagnate again. We had evolved our RPing from random sillyness, to building a world of different cultures, magic, and people. But the world, while growing, did not change. We had contries in conflict, that continued to remain so for years, when something *should* have happened that was world-breaking news. I really thing that at it's heart, the war was an attempt to kickstart life into Gaera again. Whether or not it was done the best way, I don't wish to argue over. We already had a long enough time for that, and it's in the past now.

As I said earlier, when you have a large community like this, you have a large amount of differing opinion. And that became loud and clear during that time. I think to this day, it's something we're still recovering from. But I also think it was a necessary thing, because it won't be the last time Rpgww changes and evolves. I'm still hopeful that as time goes on, we'll be better equipped to deal with changes like this in the future, and learn from mistakes past. Despite all the changes, and all the bad that's come with it sometimes, I still love this community, and the people in it. I want to continue being a part of it, and creating and exploring new characters and worlds, wherever it may lead.

Because the one thing still at the heart of Rpgww, is the imagination, and seeing how far you can take it. I only hope everyone here can remember this, the next time there needs to be changes.

~.~.~

EDIT: And it would probably help to actually, you know, answer Ash's post, heh.

In a way, I guess it could be fun Ash. But to be honest, it would feel more like a step backwards to me. My characters have changed a lot since the early days, and to be honest, I prefer them as they are now than they were in the past.

What would be intersting to me, would be to just have them all meet up again. Run into each other, sit around and talk about how things have changed in their lives. If continuity is a problem, it doesn't have to be cannon, as I suspect there would be some since we all roleplay differently now.

Also, Shini needs to be less of a grump =[

Edited by: FF Fanatic 80&nbsp; at: 11/24/04 9:58 am

[pd Rydia]

I never considered that RPing. EmpressRydia was my posting persona, not an RP character--it was just me being silly and spammish on a board. It was never really meant to be me trying to RP. I didn't even know what RPing *was*. That was why I flipped out over and over again as KoD tried to include EmpressRydia in Gaera as a serious character in Cha's backstory, and I gnawed into his braincore. FFF made a few references in-character, but it was much easier to handle as Dan Hyral is a bit eccentric at times and it could be written off much more easily.

As for the RP idea, if you can get enough people interested, go for it. Me, I'm not sure one can intentionally be spontaneously silly. I see it happen in chat still...not nearly as often as it once did, because we actually, you know, know each other and have real things to talk about. Also, like FFF said, it's kind of old for some of the older members--additionally, the lurk factor gets out of hand sometimes. But I see people go out-and-out silly pretty often. It's just not KoD, EmpressRydia, Zerogori, and so on. <p>

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[The Great Nevareh]

And now I have my revenge!

In response to the random mayhem downside- Random mayhem stops being fun to do if you do it too much, but honestly, just a little just remains fun to do. It's nice to get your sillies out and have a good laugh all around (even though I'm much too new to partake in this). Part of the process of making art is making scribbles when you feel like it. Not everything has to be orderly and ordained and well-constructed. Actually, I find it easier and more fun to make orderly, ordained, well-constructed ideas after I take all of my silliness and I expunge it using my silliness-expunging button. And boy is that silliness fun.

As for a bit of a lecture basis- My art teacher stated that one of the hardest things for an adult to do is play. Not have fun, but play. Everything has to be work, and be perfect, and satisfaction can be taken from that, but it's not simple innocent play. And this call to silliness without order is just that- roleplay, for the sheer exuberant fun of screwing around. Come on. Regress to five and do this. You'll feel better about it afterwards.

In other news: I invoke the powers granted to me by the great Lord above! Give me strength to drive off evil and force the otherworld beast from my domain! I cast here a Circle of Protection: Shini!

*Places an anti-Shini aura on his post and permanently dedicates one colorless mana to keeping it active all of the time.* <p>[---------------------------]
"There is great disorder under Heaven, and the situation is excellent."
-Mao Tse-Tung

"I eat the talking bees because I am George Washington Christ"
-From "Bob the Ball"</p>

[Uncle Pervy]

*Stabs Nevareh with an asparagus*

Bet you wish you made a better circle now, eh Jerky? <p>-------------------------------------
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[FlamingDeth]

Haha, Zerogori. His legacy remains, in the "NEW POLL" button! <p>
<hr width="70%"><center>This month's "Transformer of the Month" is Cyclonus! He turns into a severely evil looking jet thing, and his primary function is badassery.</center></p>

[Ash Fanrico]

Yeah... I agree with Dave. Again, like I was telling Molo... if an idea for an rp was to come from this... I still had no clue what it would be about. But Dave's idea does sound interesting, and ultimately... more plausible and more logical. No big adventure, no epic battle to end all epic battles... just a reunion of sorts... a get together by old friends and commrades in arms around a table or around a camp fire to catch up on lost time and reflect on how things have changed since they all first met.

and Yeah... RPGWW has grown. From a little crazy fan message board for a webcomic, to almost it's own entity all together. The only thing we have in common with Rpg World anymore is that link up there...

I guess Shin WAS right about one thing... I didn't think those days were stupid. I thought those days were FUN. <p>"Uh-Huh... hate to break this to you... but gratuitus panty shots aren't considered a weapon!" --Deadpool to Sailor Moon, "Deadpool vs. Sailor Moon"</p>