by EKDS5k » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:18 pm
Well, it was more so from my vagueness that I still agree with what I say. Though it's nice to know you still have the same amount of tact as always is reassuring, Doc. You know... ripping apart my one sentence like you did. Good to know you still take the "attack first" stance on someone's opinion instead of finding out what they meant before you tear it in twine.
You know, with this paragraph, I realise I owe you an apology. I thought you had said something dumb, but now it's clear that English isn't your first language. The first sentence doesn't make any sense. The second one is akward. The third one reveals that you don't actually know how a debate works. See, what you do in a debate is take other people's points, find the flaws, and then back them up with your own side. As for the last sentence, well, from now on I'll try to be as defensive, vague and ambiguous as possible, just so it doesn't seem like I'm being agressive.
You then go on to basically restate the same thing, giving an example of a power struggle, and saying it's not. Any time you try to either get yourself more influence/power OR knock someone else down a peg, that's a power struggle. Then you mention something about equality, which....really doesn't pertain to the issue at hand. Yeah, people aren't equal, and yeah, people tend to do what's best for themselves. So?
I can write letters until my arm falls off, but are one or two, or even one or two dozen letters out of the thousands my representatives get really going to change the world? Probably not.
Everyone's votes or letters count just as much as everyone else's (incidentally, Ganon, I think this is what was being referred to in the "all men are created equal" line).
I don't want to make too many comments about American politics, since I really don't know or care too much about them. But I think a lot of you watch too many movies and news broadcasts. I wouldn't get my politics information from blogs or the Daily Show, either.
I missed Ganon's last post in my last scan of the thread:
Idran, I'm not denying that someone is gaining power, but that's all you people really seem to be stuck on. I see politics more as a merge to the equivalence instead of power flux crom negative to positive and vice versa.
And that's still a kind of power struggle, which you keep saying it's not.
Also, I wasn't aware I was debating anything instead of putting my views open to public. I don't take people calling me ignorant when they're ignorant to what I mean very kindly, if you hadn't noticed. Seeing how this was us "defining our views on politics". I can see people are already more forward about telling others that they're wrong. Now please, remember what the original topic was about before you tell someone they're ignorant.
I didn't say you were ignorant (okay, I alluded to it in the beginning of this post), I said what you posted was kind of dumb. There's a big difference.
Also, you can't have a serious conversation about something without some form of debate involved. Any time that two or more contrasting views are presented and discussed, that's a debate. I reiterate my comment about English being a second language for you.