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What is love?

Unread postby PriamNevhausten » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:45 am

Lady don't hurt me. Don't hurt me, no more.

Yeah, though. What IS that weird-ass thing that we (or at least those of us who speak English) call love? Looking to get some different viewpoints here, and I figure this is an exempliary place to find them. PROVIDE! <p><span style="font-size:xx-small;">"It's in the air, in the headlines in the newspapers, in the blurry images on television. It is a secret you have yet to grasp, although the first syllable has been spoken in a dream you cannot quite recall." --Unknown Armies</span></p>

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Re: What is love?

Unread postby Shinigori V2 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:49 am

Goddamn, you beat me to it. <p>
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Re: What is love?

Unread postby PriamNevhausten » Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:55 am

CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING WORTHWHILE. <p><span style="font-size:xx-small;">"It's in the air, in the headlines in the newspapers, in the blurry images on television. It is a secret you have yet to grasp, although the first syllable has been spoken in a dream you cannot quite recall." --Unknown Armies</span></p>

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Re: What is love?

Unread postby RedEye Dragon89 » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:54 am

We settled this one long ago...

It's when one billion monkeys steal a Porche and drive it off a cliff. <p>

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Re: What is love?

Unread postby PriamNevhausten » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:18 am

MY PREVIOUS POST STANDS. <p><span style="font-size:xx-small;">"It's in the air, in the headlines in the newspapers, in the blurry images on television. It is a secret you have yet to grasp, although the first syllable has been spoken in a dream you cannot quite recall." --Unknown Armies</span></p>

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Re: What is love?

Unread postby Kai » Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:46 pm

Love is when two people decide to stalk each other. <p>-------------------------
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Re: What is love?

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Just listen to the rhythm of my heart

Unread postby Banjooie » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:36 am

Dude, I totally believe in a thing called love.


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Re: Just listen to the rhythm of my heart

Unread postby KingOfDoma » Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:48 am

Love is the greatest kick in the nuts one can ever receive. <p>

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Re: Just listen to the rhythm of my heart

Unread postby E Mouse » Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:46 am

I can't decide whether to treat this as a spam topic or a discussion forum topic.

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My opinion

Unread postby NamagomiMk0 » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:13 pm

Love is the greatest pile of suck to exist. All it apparently causes in the end is pain, suffering, regret, and despair. I hate it. As much as I hate David Moo. *shoots David Moo*

And as such, I hate it a lot. <p>"DO YOU THINK YOU CAN DEFEAT US? OUR TREASURE MAY BE HEAVY, BUT WE ARE LIGHT AS WIND. ONLY MAGICS MAY HURT US, BUT ONLY WE KNOW WHICH ONES." --Omoikane, Digital Devil Saga 2</p>

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Re: My opinion

Unread postby Besyanteo » Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:31 pm

Wow. Love is aparently instant angst and spam. That's... depressing.

I think that love is alll that corny mishmash you hear romantics talk about. The wonderful feeling you get when you know that someone truly cares about you, and you care about them back. It's when you would give anything to be with them, and they're all you can think about. But it's not jsut the initial blind passion of that pretty man or woman you met at the park/bar/class/whatever, it's a trust and commitment to being with them when they need you, too.

That's why I don't think my brother really loves his wife. He'll give her a good buggering, but if he's in a bad mood he won't drive half a mile to give her a damn ride home from work. <p>
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Unread postby Kai » Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:22 pm

Love is the greatest pile of suck to exist. All it apparently causes in the end is pain, suffering, regret, and despair. I hate it. As much as I hate David Moo.

Emphasis mine.

Nama is right to hate David Moo, but his justification for hating love is comparable to me hating to sleep in an igloo. Have I ever done so? No, but apparently it's fucking cold. Sure, some people say igloos retain heat, but what the fuck do they know? These people are ignorant and have been deceived by their own experience. I say all you apparently get in the morning is frostbite, hypothermia and angry polar bears ripping your house apart. I dare anyone to disagree with my irrational hatred.

I'm also inclined to agree with Besyanteo on this one. I've had some fantastically bad relationships (No really. I have an interesting record.) and I still agree with Bes. I'm standing by my answer that love is mutual stalking, but Bes explained why spending so much time following each other around and obsessing is worth it. It's worth it every damn time. <p>-------------------------
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Nothing to add cause no time

Unread postby Choark » Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:29 pm

I've never stalked my parents - least not recently - and I spend a lot of my time trying to avoid my sister until I know I can stand her company...

... and I know I love them with all my heart. In fact I'm more postive about that love then any other type of love.


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Re: Nothing to add cause no time

Unread postby Kai » Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:40 pm

Perhaps we should make distinctions between types of love like the Greeks did. I'm speaking of romantic love, and I'm pretty sure it's the topic of the thread, whether or not other usages of the term 'love' are possible. <p>-------------------------
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Clarification

Unread postby NamagomiMk0 » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:48 pm

T3chn0Namagomi (9:27:16 PM): Also, I admittedly was a bit hasty with my post on the love discussion thread.
Lithaladhwen (9:27:27 PM): Heh.
Lithaladhwen (9:27:43 PM): It seemed like a hasty post, but it was one I felt the need to address.
T3chn0Namagomi (9:30:31 PM): With my "outsider" status in most social circles, I tend to observe people and their behavior. Particularly intriguing is how they act related to love. However, I've noticed that, in all my observations, each person in a romantic situation, with two current exceptions as far as relationship-deals go, ends up miserable, lonely, bitter, and/or hurt.
T3chn0Namagomi (9:32:40 PM): One of the observed was my own experience with the May 2004 incident. Given, that wasn't quite a relationship as much as me being rejected in favor of someone else, but the feelings I had were enough, I felt, to count as a romantic situation, however onesided
T3chn0Namagomi (9:33:24 PM): Meh. Sorry. Ranting and raving bitterly again.
T3chn0Namagomi (9:35:42 PM): Mind if I post this log on the board to clarify my hastier early post?
Lithaladhwen (9:45:02 PM): Sure. <p>"DO YOU THINK YOU CAN DEFEAT US? OUR TREASURE MAY BE HEAVY, BUT WE ARE LIGHT AS WIND. ONLY MAGICS MAY HURT US, BUT ONLY WE KNOW WHICH ONES." --Omoikane, Digital Devil Saga 2</p>

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Re: Clarification

Unread postby Archmage144 » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:31 am

So basically, you fell in love with a woman over the internet that you had never met or really come to know in any fashion and ultimately decided that you had to turn it into the most melodramatic thing in the entire world? Good God, man, you refer to it "as the May 2004 incident" like it's some great tragedy. It's like when people reference "9/11." I've been rejected slash turned down for dates and relationships and whatever more times than I can count on both my hands, and it was always depressing, but it never ruined me for months at a time, nor did I see fit to refer to it in vague, overdramatic terms that scream "I don't want to say what I mean, but I want everyone to think I'm talking about something important because I'm a drama whore!!!11"

Though, hey, bad relationships can be crushing, and I suppose I've never had one of those, so what do I know.

Love, l think, is a struggle by definition. But the reason that love is love and not war is that neither of the people involved wants to hurt the other; instead, they are fighting to come to consensus. They are fighting to agree. Neither one wants to disagree with the other, and the ultimate challenge is reconiciling two viewpoints. That's what makes a relationship that endures, more than anything else. Two people have made an active decision that they are not going to allow anything to separate them. No problem is above the heads of a good couple.

Does this mean that all relationships are totally stable? Do relationships that end signify that there was never any love involved? Of course not; everyone has limits as to how much they are willing to struggle, and love is not an absolute in the sense that you might love different people different amounts. But when you have truly found someone that you love more than anyone else, the cost to yourself no longer seems to matter when it is for their sake. Nothing, not money, not time, not even your own life, is more valuable than the bond that you have with that other person. You become willing to do anything for them, give anything for them, because they are as much a part of you as your very skin, and sacrifices are not sacrifices at all. When you value another person as much as you value yourself, or perhaps more than you value yourself, that is when you know you love them.

Of course, when I say "a good couple" I make exceptions for things such as cheating on one's significant other; obviously, if that is against the "contract" of the relationship, it's not such a good couple after all. If you're willing to be so dishonest as violate the agreement of your relationship, you probably don't really love the other person in the first place.

I have found love to be the source of both great stress and great strength. I have felt that having another person that understood everything and was willing to accept anything about me is a great relief, because you know that you will always have someone to turn to. Likewise, I have felt the emotional distress of failed relationships, but in each case I always felt that somehow it was meant to be. I look back on all of my past rejections and know that I would likely not have been truly happy in a relationship with any of those people. None of them were enough like me or could ever understand me well enough to make me happy; my attraction to them was my grasping at ephemeral hopes for understanding and was more wishful thinking than a reasoned decision. Too afraid of being alone, I once felt that I would settle for anyone who would have me, mostly because I was in love with the idea of a relationship. I know now that that is a poor way to go about things.

I don't really care about what "professionals" have to say about love. Scholars, scientists, psychologists, whatever, it's all irrelevant to me. Love is knowing that there is someone you can give yourself to completely. Love is knowing that you will always be accepted as long as you stay true to who you are. Love is a willingness to give everything to preserve itself.

"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." ~Christian, from Moulin Rouge. <p>
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Re: Clarification

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Re: Clarification

Unread postby Groxley Grunk » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:13 pm

I think if you wanna know what love is, you should ask your mother.

...after all, I showed her what it was all about last night. ;D


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Re: Clarification

Unread postby Choark » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:17 pm

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I think if you wanna know what love is, you should ask your mother.

...after all, I showed her what it was all about last night. ;D


Oh shit, that was the best responce I could of ever read. Ever!

Damn!


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Re: Clarification

Unread postby Groxley Grunk » Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:36 pm

I thought you'd like it.

...Your mom did. ;D (x2)


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Re: Clarification

Unread postby NebulaQueen » Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:16 pm

Speaking of which, by god man, learn to clean up after yourself the next time you come over. I don't appreciate tripping over your crap when I want to go ask my mom for a ride or some money or something like that.

EDIT: And to prevent this post from being pointless spam, here, have some content.

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What is love? Love is one of the most important forces in our lives. I'm not just talking about love between people, though, I'm talking about something broader. I'm talking about love for the things you do. Love for the world you're in. Love for life itself. It's like that line in The Scarlet Letter (for the record, I actually hate this book. But the following line is a good one). The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy. It's not caring about anyone, or anything; at least with hate, you still care about the object of your disdain, even if it isn't positive.

And where would we be if we were apathetic, if we just didn't care? We would have no ambition. We would have no driving force. We wouldn't continue to fight and strive for what needs to be fought and striven for. Love is vital. If we are to be happy, successful, and ambitious, we must love life. We must love the possibility of a good life. We must be willing to keep on going, despite all the misery and despair we may be feeling.

Love, babe. Love is what makes the world go round. <p>

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Re: Clarification

Unread postby Banjooie » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:39 pm

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Re: Clarification

Unread postby FlamingDeth » Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:51 pm

You know what's interesting? In Greek, there are four different words for love (agape, storge, philia, and eros, for the record). This allows them to avoid the retarded mishmash of conflicting ideas that we stupid English-speakers run into when discussing love.

Some other random information: You know that scene in the third Matrix movie, where Neo is in the Etheral Subway Station of Deep Thought with the Hindu computer programs, and he's talking to them about love? Remember that part where the Hindu computer program says, "Love is a word, what's important is the connection that word implies"? Yeah, every time I see that scene I think in my mind, "Yeah, I know, asscock. We're speaking a language, which means that we use words to mean things. Way to not sound deep at all and just look like a freakin' tool." Anyone else ever get like that?


Anyways, more on the main issue that Priam may or may not have presented. As you can probably tell, it's mostly a linguistic issue for me. What kind of love are we talking about? Familial love? Romantic love? The love you have for your friends? Throw me a frickin' bone here!


EDIT: For the record, Kai, IF THAT'S YOUR REAL NAME! Igloos are actually pretty warm, unless you have a crappy igloo. And I've only had to fight off polar bears like, twice, seriously. <p>
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Re: Clarification

Unread postby Archmage144 » Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:09 pm

Assumption: Priam is referring to the combination of eros and storge (if storge is what I remember it meaning) that make up modern 21st century romantic relationships in America and many other countries with an equally liberal position regarding interpersonal relationships. <p>
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Unread postby PriamNevhausten » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:35 pm

Any kind, really. Cast your notions to the table. This is the discussion forum, after all. <p><span style="font-size:xx-small;">"It's in the air, in the headlines in the newspapers, in the blurry images on television. It is a secret you have yet to grasp, although the first syllable has been spoken in a dream you cannot quite recall." --Unknown Armies</span></p>

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Re: What is love?

Unread postby Battle Accountant » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:16 pm

I'm a bit late, but I'm gonna put my two-cents in anyhow.

*clears throat*
LOVE IS:
-Leaving class and seeing that special person standing there waiting for you
-Being able to tell the stupidest joke in the world and knowing they'll laugh and tell you that you're retarted
-Knowing you'd do anything for them, including beating the shit (or at least really REALLY wanting to) out of people who are rude to them
-Rushing over to their place when you find out that they are sick, and get to spend the day together cuz it turned out they were faking and just didn't feel like going to work
-That wonderful feeling of compromise...it's like that old Tanya Tucker song "...our loooove will last forever, if we're strooooonnng enough to bend."
-Crying at Engaged Encounter in front of a room of complete strangers when reading your betrothal becuase every word of it is true
-And some such.


Okay. I'm finished. *curtsy*

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Re: What is love?

Unread postby Endadelta » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:39 pm

Hey, since I wasn't around when this topic was established, but am totally around right now, I'll post.

Love is the result of chemicals doing crazy shit in your brain. That's all. <p>

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Re: What is love?

Unread postby Choark » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:48 pm

Then what causes those chemicals to do that crazy shit, End? <p><div style="text-align:center"> </div>
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Re: What is love?

Unread postby Endadelta » Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:55 pm

Well, all right, my knowledge of the stuff that goes on in the brain isn't entirely accurate by any means, but essentially...

Most everyone is driven by the urge to procreate (to go all Freudian, the Libido instinct, wedged somewhere deep inside the unconscious). Love is sort of a 'side effect' or rationalization of the brain to make this process out to be something more than a rudimentary drive.

Just like anything else, though, there are exceptions. There are people who lack any desire to have sex or reproduce. There are also homosexuals (of which I am at least half) who may have the desire to have sex but understand the fact that they won't be able to procreate from such a coupling. So the same instinct doesn't necessarily drive everyone.
But for the most part, it's all for reproduction.

Maybe I'm just jaded. I have become somewhat bitter concerning 'love', so my viewpoint on it isn't all that cheery.
Those who are content and happy with it can feel free to continue to be happy about it. :D! <p>

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Re: What is love?

Unread postby Choark » Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:32 pm

I'll ask my parents what love is one day, they've been together since Mom was 14 and my Dad was 16 so they probably know. I think thats 31 years this year! Not bad going really! <p><div style="text-align:center"> </div>
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Re: What is love?

Unread postby BrainWalker » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:33 pm

There's some wierd shit in this thread. But there's some good stuff, too.

Love... is very zen. It is simultaneously incredibly simple, and incomprehensibly complex. It is an absolute necessity, and yet so many people live without it. It is a beautiful, hideous, glorious, sinful, altogether intoxicating thing. In fact, love is so many things that it is no wonder that so many people have so many different things to say about it. There is such a cornucopia of emotion that some who have been in love would say that to be in love and, indeed, to be loved, is to be truly alive. There are no better words I can think of to describe what it is to be able to share the entirety of your being with someone; the good, the bad, the past, the present, the future, your very soul... To compare being in love to being without is pointless because there simply is no comparison. I particularly enjoy what the other Brian had to say in this regard:
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But when you have truly found someone that you love more than anyone else, the cost to yourself no longer seems to matter when it is for their sake. Nothing, not money, not time, not even your own life, is more valuable than the bond that you have with that other person. You become willing to do anything for them, give anything for them, because they are as much a part of you as your very skin, and sacrifices are not sacrifices at all. When you value another person as much as you value yourself, or perhaps more than you value yourself, that is when you know you love them.
The lovers' bond is such a powerful thing that finding love is like finding a part of yourself that was missing. Doing something, anything for the one you love, be it a great sacrifice or a simple gift of affection, is no difficulty at all. Making them happy brings you such joy that it is almost as if you have done something for yourself. Contrary to this, to bring sorrow to the one you love is inflict it upon yourself, and, infact, oftentimes the party that is at fault ends up feeling worse than the "victim." It is almost like a higher plane of existance, in that in that before you find it you simply lack the capacity to understand it, and that after you have found it, leaving it is incredibly difficult, and reentering the world that was once all you knew seems more than a bit mundane.

But for all that talk, love is actually quite simple. As Neb pointed out, apathy is the death of ambition. Everyone has something that they are passionate about, wether or not it happens to be a person. To love is simply to have a desire that extends beyond yourself. That is it. To love a person is arguably more substantial, because they can love you back, but man is driven by more than solely the love for his fellow man.

I love peanut butter. How do I know this? How do I differentiate an affection for peanut butter from, my enjoyment of, say... regular butter? I know by my reaction whenever I discover some new peanut-butter based dessert. I know because I laugh at stupid peanut jokes. I know because I never miss an opportunity to defend it's honor if it is the victim of some foul treachery in culinary discussion. Do I get a check from GIF every time I do this? Does that big jar of peanut butter in the kitchen write me a thank you letter? Even if noone on the planet gives one tiny sliver of a damn what I think of peanut butter, that's okay, because I care, and I am satisfied with that.

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Re: What is love?

Unread postby PriamNevhausten » Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:58 am

I have to say, mentioning 'regular butter' in the context of 'peanut butter' made me laugh a lot. But on with the discussion.

If you know you are in love when you care for another more than you care for yourself, who is to say for those who have some devotion, but low self-esteem? Those who would victimize themselves so that another may gain--that's not love, I don't think. And if it is, it's some sort of perversion on the idea.

Have you ever listened to the words to the song "When a man loves a woman?" If you think about it, it's fucking depressing! It starts to sound a bit more like Garbage's song "No. 1 Crush" after not very long.

The point of this post is to say that there is quite a huge, large difference between love and slaivsh codependence. <p><span style="font-size:xx-small;">"It's in the air, in the headlines in the newspapers, in the blurry images on television. It is a secret you have yet to grasp, although the first syllable has been spoken in a dream you cannot quite recall." --Unknown Armies</span></p>

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Re: What is love?

Unread postby E Mouse » Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:44 pm

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If you know you are in love when you care for another more than you care for yourself, who is to say for those who have some devotion, but low self-esteem? Those who would victimize themselves so that another may gain--that's not love, I don't think. And if it is, it's some sort of perversion on the idea.

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The point of this post is to say that there is quite a huge, large difference between love and slaivsh codependence.


I really shouldn't be posting here, since I don't really have a solid definition of 'love' despite hooking up with EKP, but somehow it feels right to say (if not very seriously) "I take offense at that!"

I have a number of mental problems. One of them is low self-esteem, an issue I rarely do anything about and have a stubborn nature against changing. I'm pretty sure I'm an example of that 'victimizing yourself for the gain of others gain' Priam mentioned, but you know what? I think as long as I'm careful who I latch onto, it won't be a problem.

Part of a good/loving relationship is being able to compromise with your partner. The tricky part of that is 'compromising' the right amount, based on the issues involved and what your personality is like. It's true that being too 'generous' is a big opening for abuse, but with a little caution about finding someone with similar selflessness, who'd be abusing who... if anyone?

Or maybe I'm just trying to come up with some excuse for being such a fantastic wuss. Still, 'codependence' within reasonable limits, based on what kind of person you are, seems to actually be a positive thing, to me. <p>


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Re: What is love?

Unread postby Evil Killer Poptarts » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:55 pm

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Part of a good/loving relationship is being able to compromise with your partner. The tricky part of that is 'compromising' the right amount, based on the issues involved and what your personality is like. It's true that being too 'generous' is a big opening for abuse, but with a little caution about finding someone with similar selflessness, who'd be abusing who... if anyone?


Hmm... As the other side of that relationship, I sort of agree. Love is all about compromise.

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Or maybe I'm just trying to come up with some excuse for being such a fantastic wuss. Still, 'codependence' within reasonable limits, based on what kind of person you are, seems to actually be a positive thing, to me.


The word "codependence" makes a chill go up my spine. Psychology'll do that to you. ;) But it's true- being codependent, to a point, isn't a bad thing, per se. I'm just highly prone to doing it... Ah, well, we're both kinda messed up, Mus, and I wouldn't want it any other way. <p><div style="text-align:center">Image</div></p>


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