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Damn right I do. Chanting "We want help" is akin to a child skinning its knee and crying, or a group protesting unjust treatment. When children cry from skinned knees, what they want is for a grown up to come along and make it all better. Well, if the analogy holds, there are no grown ups in New Orleans. So a child that skins its knee and cries when no ones around is just settling on that boo-hoo self-pity that will ultimately get it nowhere. When people protest unjust treatment, then that makes sense if those who are delivering the unjust treatment hear/care about it, and can improve the situation. Now, can the emergency personnel hear? Yes. Do they care? Oh, most definitely. Can they do more than they're already doing? Nope. So the chant is pointless against them. How about mother Nature? Can she hear? I suppose. Does she care? Not really. So what the hell is the point of "protesting" the situation if no one is around to assist? What's the point of crying out "we want help" when the only help available is what they can give themselves? There is NO point, and that's why I find their actions deplorable. What they're giving in to is self-pitying wankery, and what purpose could that possibly serve?Quote:
But you're calling the actions of victims deplorable (assuming the first paragraph applies to the entire post). At the worst, they're sub-optimal. Not morally wrong.
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Damn right I do. Chanting "We want help" is akin to a child skinning its knee and crying, or a group protesting unjust treatment. When children cry from skinned knees, what they want is for a grown up to come along and make it all better. Well, if the analogy holds, there are no grown ups in New Orleans. So a child that skins its knee and cries when no ones around is just settling on that boo-hoo self-pity that will ultimately get it nowhere. When people protest unjust treatment, then that makes sense if those who are delivering the unjust treatment hear/care about it, and can improve the situation. Now, can the emergency personnel hear? Yes. Do they care? Oh, most definitely. Can they do more than they're already doing? Nope. So the chant is pointless against them. How about mother Nature? Can she hear? I suppose. Does she care? Not really. So what the hell is the point of "protesting" the situation if no one is around to assist? What's the point of crying out "we want help" when the only help available is what they can give themselves?
Yeah, those TVs, boxes of nikes and car tires are absolutely essential to survival. I'm not arguing that grabbing food and bare necesseties(sp?) is a bad thing. That's good because people will have to eat nonetheless. But viewing the effects of the Hurricane as your personal opportunity time to collect some fat bling is ... well, that's what I'm arguing.Quote:
As for looting: If the place has things I can use to survive, and the town's flooded to that level anyway (It's all just gonna be thrown out and torn down later anyway), you bet your ass I'm going to 'loot' things that will help me get by until I can get some real assistance.
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