Uncle Pervy's Guide to At-Par or Better Literary Criticism.

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Uncle Pervy's Guide to At-Par or Better Literary Criticism.

Unread postby Uncle Pervy » Mon Nov 03, 2003 8:36 pm

SongstressEnlil: *Also. Would any one terribly offended if I wrote a guide to making decent literry criticism in the Fic forum?*
FDeth: OHNO
TheWaiChibiAngel: I WOULD!
FDeth: I would, Pervy!
Metroid Priam: *literary
Metroid Priam: I'd totally not complain.
TheWaiChibiAngel: I'd probably be so offended, I'd vomit!
FDeth: I'd be all like, "You hurt my goddamn feelings, ass!"
Fiddle Reject: I would like, be scared :(
Metroid Priam: And then I'd be so vomited upon that I'd be offended!
SongstressEnlil: *Thank you Grammar Nazi*
SongstressEnlil: *GOOD. THAT SEALS IT*
FDeth: What does?
Metroid Priam: VOMIT SEALS EVERYTHING.
SongstressEnlil: *I MAKE NEW STICKY THREAD NOW FOR THIS e\/e*
SongstressEnlil: *FUCKTARDS*
FDeth: You have to include logs from the portion of this chat where everyone is offended!
SongstressEnlil: *I WILL*


As a lot of you claim not to know how to give a decent review on fics and such, I shall post some pointers here on the subject.

1. Read the whole thing. Unless you are doing a grammer/Spelling check, look over the whole piece before arriving at any sort of Judgement. Unless what you have read is such an incredible piece of crap you cannot forgive the writer for it.

2. State whether or not you actually like the piece. Writers need this.

3. Look for things that need improving, or don't sit well with you. Some suggestions are

-Odd/Awkward wording.
-Tense disagreement
-Run-ons (People love them some run-ons)
-Dialogue that seems out of character
-Awkward scene transitions
-Bad flow in wording.
-Bad Spelling/Grammar
-Unnecessary description
-Lack of Description
-Too much exposition (Stating things rather than showing it)
-Not enough exposition
-Words/Statements not matching the feel of the scene
-Wordiness.
-Plot holes
-Inconsistancy
-Stagnant/Boring Plot

And so on.

4. Tell what you did like! This is important for a writer's ego. :( It can include

-Character portrayal
-Wording
-Plot Creativity
-Dialogue
-Use of characters

And so on.

5. If you have any suggestions, offer them for fuck's sake. You'd be surprised what seems blantantly obvious to you, yet is not to someone else. Remember that a good writer can change many things that may seem set in stone. Feel more than free to:

-Offer Better wording for things.
-Suggest an action that would be more IC for a character
-Offer Suggestions for the next bit of plot.
-Correct Grammar and Spelling
-Offer Suggestions on dealing with apparant plot holes.
-Suggest what should added or removed.



Feel free to add to this list as you think, I know I neglected to recall numerous things. However, this thread will be editted for content, so stay IC ^^
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Re: Uncle Pervy's Guide to At-Par or Better Literary Critici

Unread postby FlamingDeth » Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:03 pm

You hurt my goddamn feelings, ass!

Good. ~The Shadow Government <p>
I am an <s>arrogant</s> elitist bastard.

And now, since I want to be unique like everybody else, quotes:
"People don't seem to realize, it wasn't a powerful ass poke. It was a powerful poke, to the ass!" ~ Lord McBastard
"So what you're saying is that Nintendo and Sony are in league with each other, and possibly the Red Skull?" ~ EKDS5K
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Re: Uncle Pervy's Guide to At-Par or Better Literary Critici

Unread postby Shinigori V2 » Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:06 pm

*Vomits, as promised* <p>

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Re: Uncle Pervy's Guide to At-Par or Better Literary Critici

Unread postby PopoSujo » Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:45 pm

*uses said vomit to seal the thread*

I likes it Pervy, good job!

*uses more vomit to stick FD's arm to a waffle iron* <p>


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Re: Uncle Pervy's Guide to At-Par or Better Literary Critici

Unread postby Uncle Pervy » Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:04 pm

I think I'll be deleting posts soon :(

Seriously. Things to say that are useful? <p>------------------
Greetings, large black person. Let us not forget to form a team up together and go into the country to inflict the pain of our karate feets on some ass of the giant lizard person.
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Re: Uncle Pervy's Guide to At-Par or Better Literary Critici

Unread postby SALSAlys » Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:10 am

I approve of this thread. Also, the suggestions on what to critique are good for me as a writer, since I can skim over it and get an idea of what I need to do to proofread my own stuff. ^^;


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Re: Uncle Pervy's Guide to At-Par or Better Literary Critici

Unread postby Choark » Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:34 am

I'll say that its not always easy for us Critically challenged people to actually know what it is that we don't or do like in the fiction. The idea of picking out the pace of the piece or run-ons(!?) (What the Hell IS a Run-on anyway? We talking about a character suddenly getting a running in cameo?) is very much forgien to us and just can't do it.

In the end the best we can say is "We liked it but errr when we read through it some of it was was rther confusing and/or boring" or something like that. We have not had the traniing nor word knowledge to critque these fictions.

Its like with Art. Some people can do it (espicaly other artists), others just can not. A person looking at a piece of art may see it as wrong and think - that perhaps its the ink lines thats causing the trouble - something isn't sitting right with it - YET whats really bugging them is the pictures composistion - that they have the central chaarcter too central and there attention is being drawn not to the face like it should be but to the chest or whatever. Its all about knowing ya medium and how confident you are in pointing things out.

BUT saying that:

This does give us something to look through and areas to try and say something on so thats all good. Now if only i actually read more fanfictions =/


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Re: Uncle Pervy's Guide to At-Par or Better Literary Critici

Unread postby Uncle Pervy » Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:03 pm

Well, our Choark, I understand what you mean.

You don't have to address everything. Nor do you have to catch everything. If all you have to say is "I likes it", then so be it. My hope is this helps you to better say "I likes it because _____". <p>------------------
Greetings, large black person. Let us not forget to form a team up together and go into the country to inflict the pain of our karate feets on some ass of the giant lizard person.
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Unread postby pd Rydia » Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:20 pm

This thread is now golden.

[edit] Oh, poo.


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