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Christian wrote:At least I can pronounce character correctly, you'd be surprised by how many people around here use the 'ch' sound of ketchup, or 'check' when saying it.
Christian wrote:But did you have to go to speech therapy 'cause you learned to pronounce ch as sh? That must've been really difficult to un-learn.
Christian wrote:The midwestern R... Would that be the Retroflex (Retroflective?) R where you fold your tongue kind of backwards?
Asking mostly out of curiousity as I only recently learned of its name, I'm studying linguistics this semester and World Englishes proved to be quite the interesting topic. =D
Christian wrote:I barely remember anything but this whooping, humming machine that somehow (I still think there was some kind of imp controlling it) measured how much I hissed into the microphone... traumatic.
Christian wrote:Still, it's amazing really how children develop these linguistic skills, so incredibly different from how adults approach it.
pd Rydia wrote:But I hear Spleen's studying Linguistics!
BrainWalker wrote:What the fuck is going on in this thread? This is interesting stuff and all, but the words "retroflex," "approximant," and various forms of "alveolus" have occurred WAY too often in here. And what of poor little r? Why, it's been flipped upside down, caged, and even... whatever the Hell happened here: ɻ.
PriamNevhausten wrote:Well, it can be both retroflex and alveolar; "retroflex" means that the tongue loops back to point towards the throat, and "alveolar" is a locative marker--the two are not incompatible. Like, you can theoretically do a voiced retroflex interdental sound (if you have a sufficiently sizable tongue), though whether that produces a unique sound is up for questioning. YOUR STATEMENTS OF USAGE ARE CONFUSING.
Spleen wrote:Humorously enough: Dia, my dear, it sounds like you're describing the features of [ɹ] when you describe your pronunciation of /r/, not [ɻ]. My /r/ goes nowhere near the alveolar ridge.
BrainWalker wrote:What the fuck is going on in this thread? This is interesting stuff and all, but the words "retroflex," "approximant," and various forms of "alveolus" have occurred WAY too often in here. And what of poor little r? Why, it's been flipped upside down, caged, and even... whatever the Hell happened here: ɻ.
BrainWalker wrote:Also: Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I don't think I pronounce anything by having my tongue double back and wave at my pharynx.
*test* ...well, maybe I do, just a little bit. Huh. Imagine that.
Spleen wrote:Retroflex is considered a specific place of articulation in the IPA, with the tip of the tongue between the alveolar ridge and the soft palate...It's a place of articulation and not a feature because other places to stick the tip of the tongue with the tongue in a "retroflex" shape are too difficult to have become a place to form a consonant and don't produce any speech sounds that you can't make more comfortably.
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