Catholic Bishops Enact Plan For “300,000 Terri Schiavos”

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Catholic Bishops Enact Plan For “300,000 Terri Schiavos”

Unread postby Kai » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:16 pm

For fuck's sake, people.
The US Conference of Catholic Bishops released an “Ethical and Religious Directive” this month that would ban any Catholic hospital, nursing home or hospice program from removing feeding tubes or ending palliative procedures of any kind, even when the individual has an advance directive to guide their end-of-life care. The Bishops’ directive even notes that patient suffering is redemptive and brings the individual closer to Christ. (...)

A 60Minutes piece this weekend looked at the cost of dying in America, showing that Medicare paid $50 billion in the last two months of patients’ lives in 2008. Compassion & Choices focuses on the suffering at the end of life, not federal dollars, but they agree in general with the portrait shown by 60 Minutes. Incredibly, suffering is one of the selling points in the Catholic Bishops’ directive. “It’s quite specific about the role of suffering in Christian dogma,” Coombs Lee explained. “It says that suffering is redemptive, that it’s part of Christ’s passion. So they are pretty clear on their concern for the suffering of the patient.”
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Re: Catholic Bishops Enact Plan For “300,000 Terri Schiavos”

Unread postby KingOfDoma » Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:40 am

o_o

This... seems... shortsighted.
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Re: Catholic Bishops Enact Plan For “300,000 Terri Schiavos”

Unread postby BrainWalker » Sat Nov 28, 2009 3:26 pm

I can respect that the Catholic Church values human life and would rather people live than die. That's an overly simplistic view of an incredibly complex issue, but whatever. However, in case anyone was wondering where the "line" is that has been crossed, it's right here:
...even when the individual has an advance directive to guide their end-of-life care.

FUCK. THAT.

Apparently there is no free will, there is only God's will. Or rather, the will of douchebags who claim to know absolutely what God's will would be, as if such a thing could possibly be known.
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Re: Catholic Bishops Enact Plan For “300,000 Terri Schiavos”

Unread postby pd Rydia » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:20 pm

What Brian said.

The Catholic church seems to be increasingly more bitter about the whole thing where the church stopped being the state.

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Re: Catholic Bishops Enact Plan For “300,000 Terri Schiavos”

Unread postby PriamNevhausten » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:19 am

There's always the Mother Theresa option: Suffering is actually desirable in their belief system. Considering their stance on penitence and sin, and the constant emphasis on groveling, I wouldn't eliminate this from the realm of possibility.
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Re: Catholic Bishops Enact Plan For “300,000 Terri Schiavos”

Unread postby Kai » Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:09 am

The article actually makes that point. Suffering brings you closer to Jesus! Therefore increasing suffering is actually a merciful act! =D

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Re: Catholic Bishops Enact Plan For “300,000 Terri Schiavos”

Unread postby BrainWalker » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:51 am

That is some fucked up logic.
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Re: Catholic Bishops Enact Plan For “300,000 Terri Schiavos”

Unread postby Besyanteo » Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:19 pm

There's some political mumbo jumbo behind it, apparently, not within the article. The word being spread on the news sources my Dad watches/listens to is that the bill includes an article that require affirmative action for homosexuals, including in churchs or something? So, something that strikes me as pretty unlikely, seeing as it would be one of the quickest ways to get the bill overturned (violation of separation of church and state, public outcry, legitimate grievance rather than shenanigans, etc etc).

I dunno if the Archdiocese has been made to believe this or if it's just more propaganda or what, but it's something I've been told and I felt like commenting.

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Re: Catholic Bishops Enact Plan For “300,000 Terri Schiavos”

Unread postby Kai » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:40 pm

Yeah, I think that's right up there with, "if we let gay people marry each other, they'll want to marry horses and infants next." It's notable because people believe it (and, oh, do they ever), but it's not really based in anything credible.


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