HEY PEOPLE WHO KNOW THINGS ABOUT COMPUTERS:

[Spleen]

Why the hell isn't my home network working? On my laptop, I have a program that allows me to join a network and share files with Priam, for chrissakes, but everything I've tried over the past few days to get my damn wireless to put together a network has failed. Any ideas?

Here's some information:

One computer has a wireless card, the other is plugged directly into the wireless router.

Sharing has worked with these two computers before, but wonked out often.

My mom recently installed some program that allows her to work from home on the non-laptop, but I don't know a fucking thing about it, and apparently if I alter any of its options, the guys from her work come and beat me to within an inch of my life with shovels.

I really, really don't want to try to connect downstairs with the program I use to connect to Priam. Trying to send files to print all the way over the internet and all the way back does not sound smart when, technically, there is a perfectly good wireless router I can use.

I ran the Network Setup Wizard at least three times on each computer yesterday, changed the names of both computers and changed the name of the workgroup at least twice. Nothing seems to work.

I'm getting a new computer today, and I'll be damned if I'm going to try and log it on to a network that sucks this much. Interestingly, though, this will tell me if there's just a problem on one computer, because the other will be able to inferface with it. <p>-_-___-___-___-_-

"I do think genuine possibilities exist in the idea of re-releasing films that flopped earlier this year, but with snakes this time. 'Snakes on the Poseidon.' 'Snakes in a Lake House.' 'Ask the Dust, and Mind the Snakes.'
-Michael Phillips, Chicago Tribune movie critic

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[Archmage144]

If all of these computers have Windows XP, you don't need anything, or even to run a setup wizard; just use the wireless zero config option. <p>

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[Spleen]

Never mind, the problem was that mom updated Norton, which apparently automatically put up the stupid firewall again. It's fixed.

I also set it so people on Hamachi can't break into my computer downstairs, especially the printer. If I ever get a printer up here, though, which I might (the one downstairs is notoriously unreliable), then it'll probably wind up shared across Hamachi, which will make it sort of like a fax machine for RPGWWers.

Still don't have a new computer. I want an HP, but they don't have any in stock at Best Buy. Oh, well, at least I can print things now. <p>-_-___-___-___-_-

"I do think genuine possibilities exist in the idea of re-releasing films that flopped earlier this year, but with snakes this time. 'Snakes on the Poseidon.' 'Snakes in a Lake House.' 'Ask the Dust, and Mind the Snakes.'
-Michael Phillips, Chicago Tribune movie critic

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[Justice Augustus]

The Gus Golden method of setting up a home network:

10 Plug everything in
20 Turn everything on.
30 If network works GOTO 80
40 Hit everything
50 Unplug everything
60 Turn everything off
70 GOTO 10
80 End
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[Spleen]

I tend to add "change the names of things" to that list, Gus, but that's about right. <p>-_-___-___-___-_-

"I do think genuine possibilities exist in the idea of re-releasing films that flopped earlier this year, but with snakes this time. 'Snakes on the Poseidon.' 'Snakes in a Lake House.' 'Ask the Dust, and Mind the Snakes.'
-Michael Phillips, Chicago Tribune movie critic

Arch mage144: Spleen doesn't bother with penis size contests; instead, he goes straight to penis number.</p>

[E Mouse]

That Server Thing -> Piece of Shit -> Fucking Piece of Shit <p>

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"Why not? All I had to do was open a gate to his bed and stick up a sign saying 'Hot virgin willing to make the ultimate sacrifice in the name of international socialist fraternity.'"</span>

<span style="color:blue;font-size:xx-small;">Excaliburned:</span> <span style="font-size:xx-small;">Ah yes, I'm thinking of having the USS Bob be preserved outside the Arena as a monument of sorts</span></p>

[Spleen]

What, you mean Hamachi? That's weird; it works fine for me. <p>-_-___-___-___-_-

"I do think genuine possibilities exist in the idea of re-releasing films that flopped earlier this year, but with snakes this time. 'Snakes on the Poseidon.' 'Snakes in a Lake House.' 'Ask the Dust, and Mind the Snakes.'
-Michael Phillips, Chicago Tribune movie critic

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[Zemyla]

Why the ***BLAZING HELL*** are you using Norton?

For antivirus, use AVG Anti-Virus; for spyware protection, use Ad-Aware and Spybot S&D; and for firewall, use Windows XP's built-in firewall. You will find your computer working a lot better afterward. <p>-----
Do not taunt Happy Fun Zemyla.

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[FlamingDeth]

Chill pill Zem, Norton is fine, even if it isn't one of your precious open source freeware programs. <p>

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[Zemyla]

Norton is fine, huh?

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. <p>-----
Do not taunt Happy Fun Zemyla.

<span style="font-size:xx-small;">I think boobs are the lesser of two evils. - Inverse (Pervy)
Dammit, Dan, I'm not dating a damn NPC! - OOC Will (Will Baseton)
Of course! Anything worth doing is worth doing completely wrong! - Travis English
Ultimately, wizards and clerics don't say, "Gee, I want to become a lich because weapons hurt less and I don't have to worry about being backstabbed; that whole 'eternal life' thing is just a fringe benefit."-Darklion
But this one time I killed a walrus with my bare hands, and I suddenly understood spherical coordinates. - KnightsofSquare
Also, when you've worked a 36-hour shift as an intern you too just might pour yourself a catful of coffee and sit down to cuddle with your travel mug. -eirehound
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[Idran1701]

Also, as far as I know none of those programs he mentioned are open source. <p>

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[FlamingDeth]

Yeah well I can do that too. I'd come up with more, but there aren't a whole lot of articles about that program, good or bad, I'm guessing because there aren't nearly as many people who use it. What we do have are things like the above, where it conveniently lists some testing where things like Norton did outstanding in and things like AVG didn't do so hot in, and opinion articles that say that it's better than nothing, but only really for people who don't want to shell out cash for a subcription service. I'm sure that if AVG became more widely used than McAffee or Norton, people would be finding security holes in it left and right.

Though I admit that I messed up on declaring those open source, that'd be a pretty dumb plan for people trying to make antivirus software that actually, y'know, works. My bad on not examining the website enough before posting. <p>

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[Idran1701]

Those links are both about the same issue, FD.

Also, there is the independant organization AV-Test mentioned in both articles that you could use to objectively compare the two programs. <p>

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[FlamingDeth]

Like I said, it's hard to come up with anything about it. Arguably, people not writing articles about gaping security holes is a point in favor of it, but then, 0 malicious files vs 60 malicious files is a pretty big point against it.

Anyways. The point I was originally trying to make, before it gets muddled further (by my own posts as much as others), is that Norton isn't some ticking time bomb that's going to cause Spleen's computer to explode. <p>

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[Idran1701]

Quite true, and fair enough.

In reverse order. <p>

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</p>Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=idran1701>Idran1701</A] at: 9/5/06 21:44

[Spleen]

>_> I would like to submit that the computer running Norton is my mother's computer, that I know all about Spybot S&D and Ad-Aware, and that I'm not running any firewalls at all. <p>-_-___-___-___-_-

"I do think genuine possibilities exist in the idea of re-releasing films that flopped earlier this year, but with snakes this time. 'Snakes on the Poseidon.' 'Snakes in a Lake House.' 'Ask the Dust, and Mind the Snakes.'
-Michael Phillips, Chicago Tribune movie critic

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