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Extracting Video From the Brain

Unread postby Kai » Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:57 pm

I don't know how many of you may have seen this, but it seems important. <p>-------------------------
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Re: Extracting Video From the Brain

Unread postby Capntastic » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:09 am

If I remember right, this was more or less reading what was being processed by that part of the brain, and not extracting visual from memory. The former is neat, but in reality not useful. The latter is useful and most likely a long way off. I'm still glad that there's been some success in that direction.

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Re: Extracting Video From the Brain

Unread postby Kai » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:13 am

I think it was the movie Barbed Wire that had some crazy pseudo-science about extracting the last thoughts from a man who died with no serious head injuries. Kind of an odd association, but then that movie was cool.

I'm just curious what people think the practical applications of this kind of advancement might be. <p>-------------------------
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Re: Extracting Video From the Brain

Unread postby Capntastic » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:15 am

Sexual harrassment lawsuits will certainly get trickier to navigate.

I'd like to see the reverse, though; movies downloaded into your brain, and games, too. I know that it's a really lame thing, and stuff, but godammit, I want the Future I was promised, and I want it now!


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Re: Extracting Video From the Brain

Unread postby Besyanteo » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:22 am

... So, when the XBox 360000 malfunctions, will you get a blue screen in your MIND?

Edit: Seriously though, I don't see alot of application for insertion of information. Especially not next to the danger it would present.

In the mean time, extraction from the mind? ... Eh. Leery either way. I'd ned more information. I might look more into it later. <p>
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Unread postby Capntastic » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:24 am

And then we will finally have a need for heroes like Case who can Net-Wrangle our cyber-decks back into working order.


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Unread postby Wolfbelly » Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:50 am

I think this is going to be rad for dream analysis. <p>Image</p>

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Re: Extracting Video From the Brain

Unread postby Nakibe » Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:06 am

It WOULD make it easier to analyze a dream when you could make an .AVI of it directly, eh?


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Re: Extracting Video From the Brain

Unread postby Besyanteo » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:58 am

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Unread postby E Mouse » Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:07 pm

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Re: Extracting Video From the Brain

Unread postby Celeste of Elvenhame » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:00 am

y3eah, but about those people with very vivid visual imagininations.....could they 'fake' memories or such?
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Re: Extracting Video From the Brain

Unread postby Besyanteo » Thu Sep 29, 2005 12:16 am

I think they're looking at the parts of the brain that put out the most electric activity when visual stimulus is introduced to a subject... Meaning that your imagination is much less likey to affect the area they're using to pull images.

On the other hand, my impression is that it's less related to memory and more related to "I see this right now!"

Can't be sure, obviously. :( <p>
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Re: Extracting Video From the Brain

Unread postby Idran1701 » Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:37 am

It looks like Bes is right on both, from my reading of that.

Also, I believe that actual memories based on true sensory impressions are stored slightly differently from memories entirely derived from within the mind, as far as they can tell right now. It's how people are able to tell the difference between something they imagined and something that really happened, if I remember correctly, though this is second-hand from something I read a couple years ago, and so shouldn't be relied on as valid. <p>

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Re: Extracting Video From the Brain

Unread postby The Great Nevareh » Sun Oct 02, 2005 11:29 pm

Extraction of video from the brain? Oie. That would be a MESS just because of the fact that both your psyche AND your neuro-matter have tendencies to knot themselves together into large, extremely strange webs so you can make vague sense of the world. Then there's the fact that the vast majority of people don't have photographic memories, so anything extracted from the brain might come out in some way distorted.

Implanting information INTO the brain is of course several times more dangerous, though. Sure, it COULD mean that you could learn everything you'll ever need to know without having to cross the threshold of a school. It also means that you don't interpret anything on its way in; the manner in which you learn things is canned and premade so it's intact the moment it enters your mind, thus effectively giving everyone who recieves that information exactly one interpretation of the event. The best any person could then hope to do is interpret the interpretation and form opinions off of what has already been strained for them. Then there's the Brave New World which is, to tell the truth, immensely scary. You could have morals and personalities programmed into you before you're mature enough to try to understand the world on your own, effectively crushing individualism and forcing all of humanity into the wonderful little units that would make society work so well.

Then again, all the thingey is really talking about is the concept of using comparatively rude and crude modern computers to create interpretations of the neural programming that happens when an image is introduced to the eye.

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Edit for Idran: I said "Vast Majority" because there is still the possibility that it could exist. <p>[---------------------------]
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Re: Extracting Video From the Brain

Unread postby Idran1701 » Mon Oct 03, 2005 2:55 am

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Then there's the fact that the vast majority of people don't have photographic memories, so anything extracted from the brain might come out in some way distorted.


If by vast majority you mean everyone, then (probably) yes. Photographic memory (as opposed to eidetic memory, which is similar in some ways to the commonly-held perception of photographic memory but more specific and short-term, and has been confirmed through experimental evidence) is more than likely a myth. <p>

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