The Poincare Conjecture

[FlamingDeth]

Tada.

So. Someone just may have solved it. At the very least, the guy who did it (possibly) isn't being a big attention whore about it. <p><center><table border=0><td></td><td>

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[Nakibe]

He Actually sounds rather satisfied with just solving it. I mean, he doesn't seem to be taking the money or anything. <p>

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[Justice Augustus]

I tried to read that little diagram they had...but I couldn't make most of the words out. What was the actually problem?
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[PriamNevhausten]

Let me guess. Didn't read the article, too many words? <p><span style="font-size:xx-small;">"It's in the air, in the headlines in the newspapers, in the blurry images on television. It is a secret you have yet to grasp, although the first syllable has been spoken in a dream you cannot quite recall." --Unknown Armies</span></p>

[Mechanisto]

This should say a lot:

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Answering the question may help scientists better understand the shape of the universe. Beyond that, it may have no application to everyday life.

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They admit that only the most brilliant math-minds can appreciate it, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. <p>---
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[Justice Augustus]

All it says is changing 2D problems to 3D...but that's really not enough detail. Especally as you can change any 2D equation to a 3D one by integrating the square of the equation and multiplying it by pi.
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[FlamingDeth]

Zing.

Since Gus is lazy and all. <p><center><table border=0><td></td><td>

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[Justice Augustus]

I have read that 6 times now.

I have read the [url=http://www.claymath.org/Millennium_Prize_Problems/Poincare_Conjecture/_objects/Official_Problem_Description.pdf>official] too (warning, PDF).

I understand nothing.
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[Shinigori V2]

Just the fact that such math problems really exist makes me want to jump off a bridge ;_; <p>

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[Wolfbelly]

Umm, I thought it was about trying to get a 3 dimensional situation represented in a 2 dimensional light. *shrugs* Meh, whatever. I'll stick with my philosophy.

[Zemyla]

I actually understand it, and I read about this about 3 months ago in Science News.

Now, if someone solves Riemann's Conjecture, then I'll be really interested. <p>-----
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[FlamingDeth]

See, I knew Zem would understand it. Though I'd think you'd be more interested if someone solved P ?= NP. <p><center><table border=0><td></td><td>

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[Capntastic]

Math hurts my brain. What is that problem that needs to be solved to figure out how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie-pop?

[Lord Hatsuma]

Wait, I remember this, I think. It's about figuring out whether things have 'holes' in them, right?

~Hatsuma

[Zemyla]

Yes. Specifically, three-dimensional objects embedded in four-dimensional space. They've proved the cases for all the other dimensions years back. <p>-----
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[Lord Hatsuma]

Yeah, I think I filed that under, "I don't really care IF they prove this". Seemed kind of... pointless.

~Hatsuma!

[Zemyla]

Speak for yourself. It's unlocking the mysteries of the universe. Plus, it may have applications for cosmology, the shape of the universe, and all that. <p>-----
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[PriamNevhausten]

That and the article said, in fact, that most people wouldn't care. It is accurate! =D <p><span style="font-size:xx-small;">"It's in the air, in the headlines in the newspapers, in the blurry images on television. It is a secret you have yet to grasp, although the first syllable has been spoken in a dream you cannot quite recall." --Unknown Armies</span></p>

[Uncle Pervy]

I kinda care ;_;

I just find myself in Gus' boat. I really don't understand the problem. The metaphor that FD linked comes closest to explaining it, I think, but I still dun get what they are saying.

Little help for a math stupid? <p>------------------
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[Lord Hatsuma]

I'll go ahead and try. Correct me if I'm wrong.

2-D: Imagine some blob of a shape. Basically, can you draw it with just the one line around the perimiter? If not, then there are one or more 'holes' in the shape. We can find explicit formulae for determining whether or not something has these. Yay!

3-D: Same principle in 3-D. A sphere doesn't have any. A donut does. If you wrap some line around the outside of the donut (around the whole thing, not through the middle hole), then you can't touch every part of it. (If you wrap it through the middle of the donut, then your not really on the outside of it, since you'll never be able to pull the line off of the donut)

And of course we can extrapolate this to any dimension through magic math power.

[Ajil6]

Alright, now explain it so an Ajil can understand. :/ <p>[--------------------------------------------]
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[Lord Hatsuma]

Hmm. How 'bout this?

[Justice Augustus]

So that's 2d...what about three d? Does it have a hole inside the shape or on the perimeter.
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[PriamNevhausten]

Donut, Gus. Think of the donuts. <p><span style="font-size:xx-small;">"It's in the air, in the headlines in the newspapers, in the blurry images on television. It is a secret you have yet to grasp, although the first syllable has been spoken in a dream you cannot quite recall." --Unknown Armies</span></p>

[Lord Hatsuma]

~Hatsuma!

[Archmage144]

Hatsuma's lovely drawings of amoeba and their biologically defective, mutated versions cause me to reward him with a gold star. <p>

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[E Mouse]

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