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by **Spleen** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:45 am

I think if Raine dropped her staff and just started kicking people in the face in battle like she does whenever someone doesn't appreciate history, this game would be way easier. I mean, not that it's hard when you get used to the weird battle system.

by **Ganonfro** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:48 pm

It gets harder... NEVER USE SHEENA. She is like Yuffie... Only pure unadulterated SUCK.

by **BrainWalker** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:30 pm

Ganonfro has no idea what he's talking about.

by **Ark** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:41 pm

Tales Of Symphonia is probably one of the few RPGs that actually makes me want to use every character and feel cheated when I can only use half in the battles.

'Young' Pink haired girl with Giant Axe for the win.
Handcuffed man who knows women are the ultimate warriors and its men duty to back them up and cook for the second win.

by **FF Fanatic 80** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:54 pm

Actually, I found myself frequently wishing to kick Regal in the face.

Down some stairs.

Into a pit of spikes.

Filled with snakes.

Did I mention I didn't like him very much? =(

by **Taiar** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:12 pm

Dave has no idea what he's talking about.

Regal is awesome.

by **Jak Snide** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:23 pm

You want to talk about bad characters? Colette, if you trained her to use melee/strike stuff. Such a waste D:

Still need to start up the game again and get to finishing it. :[

by **Ark** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:19 pm

I was amazed at how much I did not hate Colette. Seriously, she was setup to be your A typical annoying air headed Let Love and Goodness win, sacrificing themselves for everyone girl, and yet she didn't get on my nerves AND by the end of the game I damn well wanted to save her. I would of seriously wept like a young boy who's puppy had just died if she had a bad ending.

The whole hand writing thing touched my heart. Plus they just kepy making her go through worse and worse stuff. And for a while you think YAY its Stopped but NO it gets even worse!

Also there's a torrent out of the first OVA Check em out which was the real point of this reply.

by **PriamNevhausten** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:23 pm

I really couldn't get into this at all. After the first 'angel light' or whatever thing, I was able (and Ganon can testify to this) to accurately predict the plot of the rest of the game. Plus I hated Colette, as a character and as a battle agent, so sincerely that this hate was completely without passion. The battle system irked me, though I can allow that maybe I just hadn't figured out how properly to break it, and I never got to the next plot point after the light pillar. And I have never regretted it.

by **Ark** » Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:04 am

Predicting a Tales of Plot isn't exactly a claim to fame though and certainly doesn't need anyone to testify towards it. Enjoying a Tales of plot is less being surprised at what happens and more of how they present it to you.

Other then that.. Oh well. *Shrugs* Though keeping with the theme of responses in this thread I shall hereby claim that 'you (Priam) know not of what you speak of' (even though you probably do as far as your own opinions are concerned).

by **FlameRaven** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:30 am

I've gone through ToS three or four times now... it's the only game that I ever played where I re-played it through IMMEDIATELY after finishing it. Sure, the plot line is predictable and the dialogue can be cheesy as hell, but the character development more than makes up for it.

Kratos is personally my favorite, even if you can't use him for half the game. Collette annoyed me the first time through, but gradually grew on me. And I really like Sheena, but she's rather hard to use in battle. I think my team is generally Lloyd/Genis/Raine/Presea, occasionally switching out for Kratos/Zelos or Sheena.

by **Spleen** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:27 am

Kratos is personally my favorite, even if you can't use him for half the game,

I'm not there yet! Idran installed spoiler tags on the board for a reason! AAAHHH!! Shit, now I'm not going to want to put as many resources towards him. Unless he gets Galuf'd. Someone tell me if he gets Galuf'd.

I'm only just now entering Cliched Elemental Puzzle Dungeon III (Water). Sheena's still trying to kill me, but it's pretty obvious that that'll stop soon once her Mysterious Origin is discovered.

There's way more character development in this game than in any video game I can think of, which is interesting but I WISH IT WOULD GO FASTER GAAAAAH. The "skits" are interesting, but once you've read the words on the screen you have to wait for the character to stop moving his/her mouth. You can skip past lines done by the voice actors with the A button, why can't you do the same for the damn skits?[/quote]

by **PriamNevhausten** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:32 am

He gets Galuf'd.

by **Spleen** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:36 am

Oh, okay, then all I have to worry about is that an important plot point was revealed, I don't have to make allowances within the system for it. Thanks!

by **KingOfDoma** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:59 pm

I dunno... if you feel it coming, you may want to strip his pre-corpse before letting all that valuable armor and weapony disappear...

by **Ganonfro** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:29 pm

ZELOS RULES. SHEENA SUCKS.

That is all.

by **Spleen** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:26 pm

Kratos: Only a pure maiden can approach the unicorn.

Raine: Well, I'm out.

by **FF Fanatic 80** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:11 pm

To continue my streak of bitterness in this thread so far =P

I want to know WHO THE HELL:

A) Came up with the weapon for Genis

B) Thought it would be REMOTELY USEFUL for combat

Good God, even Collette fights better =(

by **Ganonfro** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:29 am

Genis did more damage than Sheena in my game. I swear to god.

Sheena couldn't do crap. I had the choice to use Colette or Sheena, and I'd USE COLETTE. AT LEAST COLETTE HAD THE POWER TO DESTROY THE WORLD. >_<

by **BrainWalker** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:37 am

Ganonfro still doesn't know what he's talking about.

by **Ark** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:35 am

FF Fanatic 80 wrote:To continue my streak of bitterness in this thread so far =P

I want to know WHO THE HELL:

A) Came up with the weapon for Genis

B) Thought it would be REMOTELY USEFUL for combat

Good God, even Collette fights better =(

Dude... You physically faught with him?
He was one of my constant companions through all the fights.
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
Found your weakness!
The dude was a killing machine.

by **Jak Snide** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:51 am

Magic is impressive, <s>but now MINSC LEADS</s> but Genis was far too annoying to deal (in battle) with on a regular basis for me, mainly due to his SP (or whatever mana's called) getting used up in no time. That, and dumb weapons always irritate me, even if the character's not meant to use them. Seriously, at least give the little dude a pointy stick or something.

PS: Just how long is disc 1? My save is at 30 hours or something and I'm still slogging through it.

by **Ark** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:58 am

But its a Ball with a string to get into the cup.
If you miss the cup with the ball you need not worry because the balls on a string attached to the cup, so you won't ever lose the ball.
Thats the magic of the Ball with a string to get into the cup magic powers. Everytime you get the ball with a string into the cup, the magic power increases.
Remember you can also play with your other mage friends. See how many balls with strings attached you can get into the cup in five minutes for competative fun.
Everyone loves the Ball with a string to get into a cup.

Disc 1 seems to last a fair while, Disc 2 less so.

by **Spleen** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:39 pm

Yeah, Genis's SP use is exorbitant. That's why I'm glad I stumbled across the EX Skill that decreases the amount of SP he uses for spells and a SP-regenerating accessory for him, and gave him a title that ups his TP on level up.

by **FlameRaven** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:39 pm

Sorry if I accidentally spoiled you. I forget sometimes. >_>

You can actually cut Genis' TP usage quite a bit throughout the game... there's one item that reduces it by 1/3, and another that reduces it by 1/2. If you equip that and then the item that makes him regain TP as the battle goes on... he's really not bad at all. And he gets some pretty badass spells by the end.

As far as the length of the game, it of course depends on how fast you play and how many sidequests you chase, but I think disc 1 ends at no later than 40 hours or so. The game supposedly takes about 80 hours to complete (although I don't think I've ever spent more than 60) so that sounds right, anyway...

by **FF Fanatic 80** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:13 pm

Sorry, one thing that always rubbed me the wrong way in the olders Tales games were the characters who had 0 use in melee.

Either that, or I'm spoiled by Tales of the Abyss.

Tear (healer) and Jade (mage) with combat arts is <3

by **Spleen** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:43 pm

"I've lost all confidence as a man." -Lloyd

That killed me.

EDIT: Okay, wait.

"Are lumberjacks all women and children these days?" -Random palace guard #2

by **bunnygirle78** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:17 pm

Sheena was cool

whats wrong with summoners huh!!!

by **FlameRaven** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:02 pm

My only problem with Sheena is that you have to get her into Overlimit to use her summons, and I can never manage to do that. >_>;

by **Kai** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:56 pm

Oh my God. FlameRaven. Your icon.

I cackled.

by **BrainWalker** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:50 pm

Oh Goddamnit, why do I have to be in agreement with BG?

by **Ganonfro** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:35 am

Because you're on the wrong side, BW...

Because you're on the wrong side.

by **BrainWalker** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:20 pm

Sometimes we must suffer to uphold our beliefs.

RPGWW

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I got Tales of Symphonia.

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