It is here. Super Smash Brothers Brawl trailer.

[Reako Somner]

Watch, behold, be amazed.

media.revolution.ign.com/...ids_1.html

First trailer, high res.

[LadyDragonClawsEDW]

<span style="font-size:large;">CHOSEN FOUR FOR SSBB!</span>

That's awesome. XD

[Idran1701]

www.smashbros.com/en/music/index.html

"The main theme was created for us by none other than famed Final Fantasy composer, Nobuo Uematsu!

Additionally, opera singer Ken Nishikiori has also participated in this project on vocals.

...And as a special service to readers of this site, I can say that the game's music will be performed by a full orchestra.

It will be a deluxe chorus complete with lyrics in Latin.


It's of a slightly different disposition than previous Smash Bros. games, wouldn't you say?

I also want to change the atmosphere of the game itself a little, too. But you'll just have to look forward to how I'll be doing that."

Edit: Also, SSBB will support online multiplayer for two players. Not more than that, unfortunately, though, as they haven't worked out the syncing for that to an acceptable degree yet. <p>

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"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what is right" - Salvor Hardin
</p>Edited by: Idran1701 at: 5/11/06 8:44

[Shinigori V2]

Game over, Solid Snake wins. <p><hr /><div style="text-align:center">What's wrong with this ring?!</div></p>

[ikozaedro]

new characters, yeah...

Retro character: checked
Fan service: Checked
Fan demands: Checked (meta knight)
Adding a guy who should had been since the first SSB: checked (wario)
Wtf Factor: Checked!

also, love thos MvsC2 styled overkill moves, specially kirby's! <p><div style="text-align:center">
my deviant art thingy!
quote:
"-Lili! a deranged man is building an army of psychic death tanks to take over the world and there is nobody who can stop him except for you and me!
-Oh my god! LET'S MAKE OUT!"-Raz and Lili, Psychonauts</div>
</p>

[Animala]

Is that...a nintendog in the image section?

Who are some of the other characters? There's the metaknight, Snake (and his box, or a suitable substitute), and...is that Kid Icarus? I'm pretty sure that's a confirmed game, maybe a launch title. Who's the blond chick with the light saber?

Also, would someone please tell me what other characters are in the trailer? I ain't downloadin'. :|

Thanks for the linku, Kate and Idran!

--Dia <p><hr />to make the pain go away
i cut the universe
with ribbons
because that makes perfect sense.</p>Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=whiteknightdelta>White]&nbsp; at: 5/11/06 14:49

[Nick Shogun]

I kinda wonder if they've altered the designs for any of the other characters, like Captain Falcon and Starfox. Or are the nine in the preview going to be the only characters in the new game? <p><div style="text-align:center">

www.livejournal.com/users/jankenpo/
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</div></p>

[ikozaedro]

<blockquote>Quote:

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Who's the blond chick with the light saber?

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suitless samus. <p><div style="text-align:center">
my deviant art thingy!
quote:
"-Lili! a deranged man is building an army of psychic death tanks to take over the world and there is nobody who can stop him except for you and me!
-Oh my god! LET'S MAKE OUT!"-Raz and Lili, Psychonauts</div>
</p>

[Animala]

I've googled some other articles. Supposedly, the trailer is all Nintendo 'has to show for the work they've done since October;' they might not have decided on what other characters they'll have or they might have, but either way they aren't letting slip about it.

Doesn't look like it'll be a launch title. It's slated for 2007 now.

-- Dia <p><hr />to make the pain go away
i cut the universe
with ribbons
because that makes perfect sense.</p>Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=whiteknightdelta>White]&nbsp; at: 5/11/06 15:17

[Idran1701]

It's not a launch title, and those have been confirmed as not the only new characters. In fact, there's a poll going on at the Japanese site for selecting a new character, and a Nintendo rep has been quoted as saying they've been in talks to include other third-party characters besides Snake.

In fact, apparantly, Kojima begged the designers of SSBM to include Snake in that game, but there wasn't time, so they contacted him about including him in this one and got the go-ahead.

For those of you that don't want to download the trailer, here it is on YouTube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhH1yEZhf7A <p><hr />
"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what is right" - Salvor Hardin
</p>

[LadyDragonClawsEDW]

<s>Koss</s> Dia: The Nintendog is an item that, when used, obscures the screen and thusly screws over the player trying to play!

Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=ladydragonclawsedw>LadyDragonClawsEDW</A] at: 5/11/06 15:53

[Zemyla]

Holy crap. Metaknight.

That's all I have to say. <p>-----
Do not taunt Happy Fun Zemyla.

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Ultimately, wizards and clerics don't say, "Gee, I want to become a lich because weapons hurt less and I don't have to worry about being backstabbed; that whole 'eternal life' thing is just a fringe benefit."-Darklion
But this one time I killed a walrus with my bare hands, and I suddenly understood spherical coordinates. - KnightsofSquare
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[Endesu]

...

If Konami's Solid Snake can appear there...

... by God, I want Pyramid Head in there, too. >: <p><hr />
<div style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">Curtis: Dannyboy, look at you. You've changed considerably, into a badass, if I may.
Dan: Yeah, you've changed a lot too, into an old man! I went to see the devil, now it's your turn!
Curtis: Oh, my pupil, so tenacious of life, guess I have to kill you again.
Dan: Shut up, before you run out of breath!
Curtis: I got rid of those smiles, there's no one left to disturb our game. Just you, and me.
Dan: Sounds fair, 'cuz I hate holding back, even for an old fart like yourself.
Curtis: Talk all you want, I won't need six bullets for you.
Dan: Or four for you.</span>
</div></p>

[KingOfDoma]

... PYRAMID HEAD? BO-ring!

If it's Konami we're talking about, why not a Belmont, or to a lesser extent, Soma Cruz?

And yes, that is Kid Icarus. Apparently his actual name is Pit. Go figure. <p><hr />
<div style="text-align:center"></div></p>

[Endesu]

By saying that, Chuck, you clearly have no idea how cool PH is.

Any SH character would be appreciated, considering that Silent Hill is Konami's big horror series and does in fact have a decently sized cult of fans. Perhaps not as big as one for MGS or Castlevania, no, but one big enough for such a character to show up alongside Snake.

... never mind that there's literally no chance for any such character to appear. I still want to see such. D: <p><hr />
<div style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">Curtis: Dannyboy, look at you. You've changed considerably, into a badass, if I may.
Dan: Yeah, you've changed a lot too, into an old man! I went to see the devil, now it's your turn!
Curtis: Oh, my pupil, so tenacious of life, guess I have to kill you again.
Dan: Shut up, before you run out of breath!
Curtis: I got rid of those smiles, there's no one left to disturb our game. Just you, and me.
Dan: Sounds fair, 'cuz I hate holding back, even for an old fart like yourself.
Curtis: Talk all you want, I won't need six bullets for you.
Dan: Or four for you.</span>
</div></p>Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=crawlingreshiki>Crawling] at: 5/11/06 18:50

[ikozaedro]

End seems to forget there were no Silent hill games for any nintendo console(right?), unlike metal gear, which had nes and GBC games.

[Idran1701]

Unfortunately, End, like I said, it's not Konami that was the reason for including Snake, it was Kojima himself.

Besides, I would hope not to see any SH character in a Super Smash Brothers game, myself. They'd fit even less so than Snake. <p><hr />
"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what is right" - Salvor Hardin
</p>

[Ganonfro]

The fact that they revived Pit from Eggplant hell pleases me a bit. That game was hard as hell on Nintendo.

[Idran1701]

Oh, also, I might as well give a link to that opinion poll I mentioned before. Though since you have to justify your request and it's a Japanese site, this will probably only be useful to three people on this board.

www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/index.html

Edit: Also, an essay on how this game came to be made!

www.smashbros.com/en/story/index.html

Edit2: Transcript of the Q&A with Miyamoto and Sakurai from the E3 presentation on SSBB.

www.eurogamer.net/article...601&page=1 <p>

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"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what is right" - Salvor Hardin
</p>Edited by: Idran1701 at: 5/11/06 18:43

[Endesu]

Glu: There was in fact a Silent Hill game for the GBA.

Idran: Yeah, I read the article in further detail and found that Kojima himself apparently wanted Snake in SSBM... huh. Bummer.

I personally believe that Pyramid Head, Valtiel, or any of the other characters could be no weirder than Mr. Game & Watch. <p><hr />
<div style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">Curtis: Dannyboy, look at you. You've changed considerably, into a badass, if I may.
Dan: Yeah, you've changed a lot too, into an old man! I went to see the devil, now it's your turn!
Curtis: Oh, my pupil, so tenacious of life, guess I have to kill you again.
Dan: Shut up, before you run out of breath!
Curtis: I got rid of those smiles, there's no one left to disturb our game. Just you, and me.
Dan: Sounds fair, 'cuz I hate holding back, even for an old fart like yourself.
Curtis: Talk all you want, I won't need six bullets for you.
Dan: Or four for you.</span>
</div></p>

[Idran1701]

I'm not talking about weirdness. I'm talking about how well a "realistic" psychological horror figure that rapes other monsters from a serious plot-driven game would fit into a game with a sword-wielding elf, a mouse that uses electricity, a plumber that shoots fireballs, and a tongue-in-cheek fourth-wall-breaking special ops agent. What would his smash move be, impaling the other combatant on his great knife as blood spurts from their slowly-dying body? <p><hr />
"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what is right" - Salvor Hardin
</p>Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=idran1701>Idran1701</A] at: 5/11/06 19:02

[PriamNevhausten]

Dammit, someone beat me to the question of why Snake is there and not a Belmont! *mauls Cha* <p><span style="font-size:xx-small;">"It's in the air, in the headlines in the newspapers, in the blurry images on television. It is a secret you have yet to grasp, although the first syllable has been spoken in a dream you cannot quite recall." --Unknown Armies</span></p>

[Idran1701]

...Because Kojima asked them to put Snake in, and no game developer asked them to put a Castlevania character in. <p><hr />
"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what is right" - Salvor Hardin
</p>

[Endesu]

I refuse to let Idran stamp out my dreamn.

What about Snake? What will his special move be, snapping the necks of the other characters? Perhaps using them as a body shield against other combatants, or simply shooting them up with <random equippable gun weapon>? While PH's style and attack form are out of sorts with the rest of the cast, yes, so are Snake's. <p><hr />
<div style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">Curtis: Dannyboy, look at you. You've changed considerably, into a badass, if I may.
Dan: Yeah, you've changed a lot too, into an old man! I went to see the devil, now it's your turn!
Curtis: Oh, my pupil, so tenacious of life, guess I have to kill you again.
Dan: Shut up, before you run out of breath!
Curtis: I got rid of those smiles, there's no one left to disturb our game. Just you, and me.
Dan: Sounds fair, 'cuz I hate holding back, even for an old fart like yourself.
Curtis: Talk all you want, I won't need six bullets for you.
Dan: Or four for you.</span>
</div></p>

[Idran1701]

Yes, but it's a lot easier to lighten up this guy for a Super Smash Brothers game than Pyramid Head.

Honestly, End, give me a move set for Pyramid Head that would work for a Super Smash Brothers game. Or Valtiel, or whoever else you would want to see in it. Can you give me one that both keeps with the light-heartedness of the series and stays true to the core of the character? <p><hr />
"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what is right" - Salvor Hardin
</p>

[KingOfDoma]

I shall also note that a Belmont is a possibility for a secret character, especially since Castlevania easily has a better Nintendo relationship than Snake ever will... <p><hr />
<div style="text-align:center"></div></p>

[Besyanteo]

And suddenly, Cute Pyramid Head becomes an AIM icon, a plushie, and a children's drink cup given away with McDonalds happy meals... <p><hr /><div style="text-align:center"></div></p>

[Animala]

Give me a Suikoden character or give me...

Oh heck. This looks neat, though.

-- Dia <p><hr />to make the pain go away
i cut the universe
with ribbons
because that makes perfect sense.</p>Edited by: [url=http://p068.ezboard.com/brpgww60462.showUserPublicProfile?gid=whiteknightdelta>White]&nbsp; at: 5/11/06 21:09

[Endesu]

Yes, in fact, I can!

Not Pyramid Head. He is in fact too bloody and too gory. To make him SD or 'cute' in anyway would chip away at his meaning.

Valtiel doesn't do much in the way of 'fighting' beyond strangling nurses.

No, no, you see, the character would be Harry.
Harry is perhaps the goofiest of all of the SH characters as he is prone to stumbling, tripping, and falling moreso than any othe others.

Many of his moves could involve such. He could also use the Hyper Blaster, a super secret weapon in SH1, inspired by Konami's light gun of the same name, to shoot colorful beams! And let us not forget the UFO. <p><hr />
<div style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:xx-small;">Curtis: Dannyboy, look at you. You've changed considerably, into a badass, if I may.
Dan: Yeah, you've changed a lot too, into an old man! I went to see the devil, now it's your turn!
Curtis: Oh, my pupil, so tenacious of life, guess I have to kill you again.
Dan: Shut up, before you run out of breath!
Curtis: I got rid of those smiles, there's no one left to disturb our game. Just you, and me.
Dan: Sounds fair, 'cuz I hate holding back, even for an old fart like yourself.
Curtis: Talk all you want, I won't need six bullets for you.
Dan: Or four for you.</span>
</div></p>

[Idran1701]

All right, that I could agree with, sure.

You should have said that from the start. :D <p><hr />
"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what is right" - Salvor Hardin
</p>

[Steve]

I cannot belive that we are discussing anything other then Wario's picture perfect intro into that trailer.

I mean... goddamn. That was a near religious experince.

[PriamNevhausten]

Your threshold of belief needs readjustment. <p><span style="font-size:xx-small;">"It's in the air, in the headlines in the newspapers, in the blurry images on television. It is a secret you have yet to grasp, although the first syllable has been spoken in a dream you cannot quite recall." --Unknown Armies</span></p>

[Steve]

It does now.

[Spleen]

I'm in love. Third incarnation of my favorite video game series of all time? Ohhh, yeah.

Just tell me how to unlock Sonic and Roy, and don't try to convince me that Sonic's not going to be in it, because I will stab you.

EDIT:
WAIT A MINUTE.

That's the Halberd! <p>-_-___-___-___-_-

"The universe is all in the mind that perceives it, and sensation is the first and only reality. If a tree falls in the forest with no creature to hear it, then there is no tree."
-Dungeons and Dragons: Complete Arcane, page 167

Arch mage144: Spleen doesn't bother with penis size contests; instead, he goes straight to penis number.</p>Edited by: SpleenInfinity13&nbsp; at: 5/13/06 10:59

[Wolfbelly]

What the hell? Why's Snake in that game? <p></p>

[Zemyla]

Because of YOUR MOM. <p>-----
Do not taunt Happy Fun Zemyla.

<span style="font-size:xx-small;">I think boobs are the lesser of two evils. - Inverse (Pervy)
Dammit, Dan, I'm not dating a damn NPC! - OOC Will (Will Baseton)
Of course! Anything worth doing is worth doing completely wrong! - Travis English
Ultimately, wizards and clerics don't say, "Gee, I want to become a lich because weapons hurt less and I don't have to worry about being backstabbed; that whole 'eternal life' thing is just a fringe benefit."-Darklion
But this one time I killed a walrus with my bare hands, and I suddenly understood spherical coordinates. - KnightsofSquare
Also, when you've worked a 36-hour shift as an intern you too just might pour yourself a catful of coffee and sit down to cuddle with your travel mug. -eirehound
</span>

Adventurers! | RPG World World | The Phantom Lord's OT Board mkII | Indie Madnesse | Brotherhood of Elitist Bastards</p>

[Idran1701]

Why are you assuming Sonic's the one of those two that isn't going to be in it, Spleen? <p><hr />
"Never let your morals get in the way of doing what is right" - Salvor Hardin
</p>

[Spleen]

Well, Roy is a very popular character in Melee. I know a lot of people, myself included, that use Roy often. I generally switch between Kirby (who we already know will be included), Zelda (who we can probably assume), and Roy. <p>-_-___-___-___-_-

"The universe is all in the mind that perceives it, and sensation is the first and only reality. If a tree falls in the forest with no creature to hear it, then there is no tree."
-Dungeons and Dragons: Complete Arcane, page 167

Arch mage144: Spleen doesn't bother with penis size contests; instead, he goes straight to penis number.</p>

[PriamNevhausten]

It's not infeasible, though, for them to eschew either Marth or Roy and just leave the other one in, because there are very few differences between them mechanically even in Melee. <p><span style="font-size:xx-small;">"It's in the air, in the headlines in the newspapers, in the blurry images on television. It is a secret you have yet to grasp, although the first syllable has been spoken in a dream you cannot quite recall." --Unknown Armies</span></p>

[Spleen]

Well, there are also few mechanical differences between Captain Falcon and Ganondorf, but people still play them differently. <p>-_-___-___-___-_-

"The universe is all in the mind that perceives it, and sensation is the first and only reality. If a tree falls in the forest with no creature to hear it, then there is no tree."
-Dungeons and Dragons: Complete Arcane, page 167

Arch mage144: Spleen doesn't bother with penis size contests; instead, he goes straight to penis number.</p>